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BluetickHound22
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 Score?

Score after First tree, Dog A 200+ Dog B 175+ Dog C 50-
Dogs recut and tree within the minute
Dog C 100 Strike 125 tree
Dog B 75 strike 75 tree
Dog A 50strike 50tree.
Get to the tree and dog A left as Handler went to handle him then dog A come back while shining the tree. Handler of dog A strikes back in for 50.
Tree is circle no coon seen.
I think the score should be A 100+ B 175+ and C 50-
Thanks in advance

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quote:
Originally posted by BluetickHound22
Score after First tree, Dog A 200+ Dog B 175+ Dog C 50-
Dogs recut and tree within the minute
Dog C 100 Strike 125 tree
Dog B 75 strike 75 tree
Dog A 50strike 50tree.
Get to the tree and dog A left then come back while shining the tree. Handler of dog A strikes back in for 50.
Tree is circle no coon seen.
I think the score should be A 100+ B 175+ and C 50-
Thanks in advance


This is confusing. He didn't need to restrike. His 50 strike was still working.

Dog C gets 50 circle strike points as he came into the tree after the judge arrived and no dog treeing was awarded plus points. He gets 50- tree points for leaving the tree.

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BluetickHound22
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At the End of the Hunt dog A was 200+ dog B 175+ dog C 50-. Looks like to me dog B got Screwed.
The guy handling dog A was the Judge and never took his minus.
The guy handling dog B went back to the MOH and they told him he was wrong. Said the score stayed the same.

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quote:
Originally posted by BluetickHound22
At the End of the Hunt dog A was 200+ dog B 175+ dog C 50-. Looks like to me dog B got Screwed.
The guy handling dog A was the Judge and never took his minus.
The guy handling dog B went back to the MOH and they told him he was wrong. Said the score stayed the same.


Well if I am reading this right dog A should have had 150 plus 50 minus and 50 circle.

Dog B should have had 175+ with 150 circle

Dog C should have had 50- with 225 circle.

Dog B is the cast winner.

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BluetickHound22
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Originally posted by Rip
This is confusing. He didn't need to restrike. His 50 strike was still working.

Dog C gets 50 circle strike points as he came into the tree after the judge arrived and no dog treeing was awarded plus points. He gets 50- tree points for leaving the tree.

Dog C struck for 100 and treed for 125
Dog B for 75 strike and 75 tree
Dog A 50 strike and 50 tree.
Dog A left after declared Treed so he should have been minused.
While we were shining the tree he truck back in for 50 and treed. Then was handled

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Originally posted by BluetickHound22
Dog C struck for 100 and treed for 125
Dog B for 75 strike and 75 tree
Dog A 50 strike and 50 tree.
Dog A left after declared Treed so he should have been minused.
While we were shining the tree he truck back in for 50 and treed. Then was handled


There is no reason to strike back in though. See above. His original 50 strike was still working and that would have been circled because he came into the tree after the judge arrived. His strike is not minused for leaving the tree only his tree points. His strike is still open and is scored as circle when he comes back in.

Unless something is missing the score should be dog A 150+ dog B 175+ and dog C 50- with dog B winning the cast.

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Ok thanks, I guess since he never got to handle dog A in time he got a lucky break and was only minused for the tree?

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Ok thanks, I guess since he never got to handle dog A in time he got a lucky break and was only minused for the tree?


Yes but he still should have lost the cast because he should have only had 150+

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Score card went in as
Dog A 200
Dog B 175
Dog C -50
The boy Handling Dog B isn’t all mentally there. He took it back to the MOH and they let it slide

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Yes but he still should have lost the cast because he should have only had 150+

Thanks for clearing this up.

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Originally posted by BluetickHound22
Score card went in as
Dog A 200
Dog B 175
Dog C -50
The boy Handling Dog B isn’t all mentally there. He took it back to the MOH and they let it slide


WOW I have a hard time understanding how that happened.

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The guy with Dog B beat the the guy with dog A back to the club and asked about it. They told him not to worry about it that he was wrong because he never put a ? mark on the card is probably why.

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Originally posted by BluetickHound22
Dog C struck for 100 and treed for 125
Dog B for 75 strike and 75 tree
Dog A 50 strike and 50 tree.
Dog A left after declared Treed so he should have been minused.
While we were shining the tree he truck back in for 50 and treed. Then was handled

Impossible. He couldn't have struck back in as he's strike points are still live and haven't been scored. If you meant he treed for 50 again, that too is impossible as that tree was dead and if the judge treed him he should have went in for all kinds of minus. Either there was alot of confusion or misunderstanding on someone's part, or the judge stuck it to handler B. Think maybe from the sounds of it, might of had to have been there. But it's possible that the judge took y'all to school and the moh helped.

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The problem is that dog A did not take his 50- after dog left the tree, then when handlers go to sign card and see score was wrong you question the score with the Judge and cast,if not satisfied with answer or a vote from cast members, then you ask for a question mark to be put on the card! if judge will not give question mark on card,don't sign card until you get to club house and report this to master of hounds/hunt directer then sign card in front of MOH/BD and let him round up cast and get the right answers, if he does'nt then fill out a complaint form on them. people get away with these kind of things because most won't fallow up with the complaint, they just drop it and go on!

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They don't just "go on", they complain to all of their buddies and/or complain about it on the interweb. Unfortunately neither the interweb or your buddies can do anything about it. Surely the MOH explained why the judges score remained at 200+. Unless someone was actually present, they can't know what or why something happened.

Did Dog A go back on the same tree or another tree?

Did Dog A come off the tree to meet the cast and then go back?

Did Dog A leave and trail around and then come back in?

Just what does "Dog A left the tree" mean?

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BluetickHound22
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They don't just "go on", they complain to all of their buddies and/or complain about it on the interweb. Unfortunately neither the interweb or your buddies can do anything about it. Surely the MOH explained why the judges score remained at 200+. Unless someone was actually present, they can't know what or why something happened.

Did Dog A go back on the same tree or another tree?

Did Dog A come off the tree to meet the cast and then go back?

Did Dog A leave and trail around and then come back in?

Just what does "Dog A left the tree" mean?
No complaint here, I never had a dog in the cast.
Just wanted to know what the score should have been.
Rip gave me the answer and Coonhunter,mo was right. Dog A never took his minus and handler of dog B didn’t know what was going on.
Judge said Handle your dogs and Dog A left the tree Before being handled and kept on trailing out of seeing distance. Then come back in and started treeing.

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