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Winning in any sport or any hunt is not tantamount to be absolute. Most every sport has rules and the winner is not exempt from those rules! When the declared winner is found guilty of a rules violation, they vacate the win period. Lance Armstrong was stripped of his "wins" due to doping charges, does anyone still consider him to be the champion? There are many examples of wins being vacated due to rules violations that were discovered at a later date, a true champion should be without reproach at all times. We should never consider a winner that won by cheating as the true winner in any sport. Sambo is no doubt a very good dog, he proved that, but Sambo is not the World Champion! Like it or not, Sambo was disqualified by UKC for a rule violation. Nuff said! Dave

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Many sports have had to strip championships and titles for various reasons. How you win always matters more than winning itself.

All of us have treed coons after time ran out but scoring them is another matter.

Can an NFL player run to the endzone after stepping out of bounds? No.

Can a Basketball player shoot and score after the buzzer sounds? No.

Can a baseball player get 4 strikes? No.

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Why then y'all find something else to cry about...this is something that happens every sat night somewhere and all y'all know it admit it or not ... 100% positive they have been world hunt winners before that have been given a coon somewhere sometime...hell yall done forgot the world last yr they plused 2 possum trees that had a coon 76ft above that winked at the judge while they were shining the tree

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But sam dog done beat the supposed best of the best in the world why not give the dog what it deserves he won despite what his dumbazzz handler has did after he got to the big show he done what he was posed to and won it fair down there correct??..I dunno Tim I just cant agree with a re-hunt...but goodluck to all that get to go back for a 2nd try mabye if y'all get beat again Yall can find some more dirt on the winning dog and do it a 3rd time it's the charm..heck let's make it best outta 5

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If he played by the same rules every one else did.

Sambo lost on Friday night, he won his cast on Saturday night but 150 was not enough to get him to GA, so no he is Not a world ch!

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But sam dog done beat the supposed best of the best in the world why not give the dog what it deserves he won despite what his dumbazzz handler has did after he got to the big show he done what he was posed to and won it fair down there correct??..I dunno Tim I just cant agree with a re-hunt...but goodluck to all that get to go back for a 2nd try mabye if y'all get beat again Yall can find some more dirt on the winning dog and do it a 3rd time it's the charm..heck let's make it best outta 5

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If he played by the same rules every one else did.

Sambo lost on Friday night, he won his cast on Saturday night but 150 was not enough to get him to GA, so no he is Not a world ch!

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I’m confused hobo, my post stated sambo lost his cast on Friday night!

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How many dogs Sam beat 100000 dogs or whatever it don't matter the score card was altered by his handler ANY WAY U LOOK AT IT THE DOG MUST BE SCRATCHED AND HANDLER BARED PERIOD DON't MATTER. Lets see what action is taken from here out . How U K C handle this is a way to judge them. SEE in my opinion if and they have taken action then the action speaks for itself job 1/2 finished. See it is easy to stand tall if there is no wind blowing but in a driving storm that is another matter. STAN TALL WE NEED LEADERSHIP NOW.

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But sam dog done beat the supposed best of the best in the world why not give the dog what it deserves he won despite what his dumbazzz handler has did after he got to the big show he done what he was posed to and won it fair down there correct??..I dunno Tim I just cant agree with a re-hunt...but goodluck to all that get to go back for a 2nd try mabye if y'all get beat again Yall can find some more dirt on the winning dog and do it a 3rd time it's the charm..heck let's make it best outta 5

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I’m confused hobo, my post stated sambo lost his cast on Friday night!

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. So how many times should you be allowed to cheat and still have your win count? I really doubt sambo cares either way the prestige is for the owner/ handler. Honest mistakes happen If this was a honest mistake or a minor infraction I could see it your way but the way I understand it was blatant cheating. aren’t the guys who didn’t cheat owed a anything?

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