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Redneck Mafia
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Rule Change Proposals 2022

2022 Rule Change Proposals
1. Allow the use of thermal imaging devices, cell
phone cameras, and mirrors as scoring aids.
2. Change and combine rules for Dogs Treeing
but Not Declared Treeing to receive the same
demerit, regardless of how the tree is scored. The
recommendation from the proposal is to minus the
strike points and to not assign any additional tree
points in any circumstance.
3. Change Rule 4(b) to read, Strike points will be minus
if none of the declared struck dogs open within 6
minutes. The 6 minutes is a change from the 8
minutes the rule currently requires.
4. Alter the tree countdown to read that the 2nd tree
position closes after 30 seconds, 3rd tree position
closes after 1 minute.
5. Alter Rule 11(d), taking out the stipulation that
you must hear a struck or treed dog open before
recasting.
6. Add the definition of the “implied scratch rule” to
Section 6.
7. Remove the 1st offense Warning from Rule 2(a) for
handlers not striking their dog on or before the 3rd
bark.
8. Remove the 1st offense Warning from Rule 2(d) for
handlers calling the wrong dog.
9. Put a time limit on handlers recasting their dogs
after pulling them off a scoring situation. Give them
up to one minute to recast their dog, or if other
dog in cast is declared treed, up to one minute to
utilize their option to keep their dog on leash until
the next opportunity to recast arises.
10. In any category, a dog to accrue 200 minus points
(regardless of pending strike/tree points) for
running, treeing, or molesting off game. (Off game
must still be seen)

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Redneck Mafia
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Cheyenne's opinion on change proposals...
#1👍good with this change if a dog trees a coon you should do everything you can to find it and score it. (He is not against keeping all cast members together if this were to change)
#2👍minus them their strike. Dog/ handler need to be held accountable always. Consistency in what to do would be easier for those who maybe newer to the sport too.
#3 👎 leave it alone the 8 minutes is fine.
#4 👎 leave it alone. Just like #3. No need to make them the same as the Blue Book. All their getting after 2 minutes is 25 points anyway.
#5 👎👎👎NO!! Those dogs need to be held accountable for their strike. Leave this rule as it is.
#6 👍Yes, include the definition.
#7 👎 Leave as is. As a judge you should be able to say I need a call then if they don't give you a call they should be held accountable.
#8 👍Yes change it back. This one shouldn't have changed last time.
#9 👍sounds good! It needs a time he doesn't care how long the time is as long as it is defined.
#10 👎 leave this rule as is don't change to proposed.

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Pat Bizich
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1. Allow the use of thermal imaging devices,as scoring aid.

NOPE !!!

Everything getting too high tech.
So the guy that can afford a 1000 thermal image device will endeavor to find every coon his dog has treed
While the poor country boy is on his own on most trees

Don't think so....?
How many times has the guy winning a cast sat back and "PRETENDED" to shine a tree or not shined at all because if this coon is scored he will lose the cast ?

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My question with the thermal is are we going to make it the end-all? If no "hot spot" is seen are we still going to say he could be there let's circle it, or will no "hot spot" be a definite minus?

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Originally posted by shadinc
My question with the thermal is are we going to make it the end-all? If no "hot spot" is seen are we still going to say he could be there let's circle it, or will no "hot spot" be a definite minus?


That will never be a rule, I'd bet the farm on it.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by shadinc
My question with the thermal is are we going to make it the end-all? If no "hot spot" is seen are we still going to say he could be there let's circle it, or will no "hot spot" be a definite minus? [/QUOTE

If you've used a Thermal you know the answer to that question. They don't find every coon. They are an aid to find some coon that you can't see or won't look.

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