Oak Ridge
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Indiana
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Re: UKC Hunts
quote: Originally posted by Lakeview Kennel
I live less than a hr from where the world hunt is being held at this year. And you don't have to find a pocket if red squirrel to be able to tree squirrels in the time the late round will be held. This time of year gray squirrels move pretty much all day.
I can maybe see letting a dog advance on circle but only circle real den trees. Don't let it get like NSD and circle every tree you can't find a squirrel in. A real squirrel dog will timber a squirrel to the tree in stops in.
On the one and only NSD hunt I went on they were circling trees no bigger around than a pop can. The dogs on the cast I was on also circled a tree that was off game. All the dogs in the cast treed in on it. It was easy to see that there was nothing else in the tree. I voted to minus it but was out voted.
I guess what I'm getting at is most people that I know don't want to see UKC get to where you don't need an honest dog to win.
Oak Ridge where can I find the rules the UKC cur dogs will hunt under. A lot of us cur hunters around Ky would like to look at them before we decide if we are going to Corbin to hunt.
I've held off responding to this post until I had something to "back it up".
If you live "less than an hour" away from the hunt, and you didn't attend...YOU MISSED OUT.
We hunted 55 dogs On Saturday morning, I sent 19 casts to the woods. Those 19 casts scored on a grand total of 7 squirrels. And we advanced dogs on circle points.
If you live "less than an hour" away from the hunt, and you were not there to guide a cast to the great hunting that you have, then you cheated all of those folks that drove from Michigan, Alabama, Indiana, Georgia, West Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, and from you own home state in Kentucky. out of the ability to get in all of the great squirrel population
At the end of the weekend, we advanced dogs until we were down to three....and the most consistent squirrel treeing dogs were in the final three dogs, and the dog that treed the most squirrels in the final cast won the hunt.
I don't have anything against NSD. But I don't understand why you feel the need to find something "wrong" with every registry that sanctions squirrel hunts. I noticed that by your signature that you are a coon hunter. I too am a coon hunter.....but I don't believe that squirrel dogs should be held to the same "standard" as coon dogs, because these are squirrel dogs, not coon dogs. Squirrels and coon are different animals with different habits, and different abilities.
I can respect your choice, and will defend it. But you should be able to do the same. There was a choice to allow dogs to advance on circle points in a full elimination style event for the curs, to encourage folks to travel to the hunt. This isn't and wasn't a "local" event. The guys from Georgia and Alabama that drove for 10 hours to get there knew they were coming to steep ground with a less than optimal squirrel population...but they came ONLY because they knew that if there dog did it's job, they could at least have a chance to hunt again.
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