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Dog Run Flooring

I'm building a large run area for my dogs. All total about 2,000 sq ft. Will wood work for flooring? Just regular PT 2x4 boards with about 1" between the boards? If so, what's the best way to keep it all clean? Simply hosing down each day with plain water or do I need to do anything extra?

Or would sand work?

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you can also use what's called 5/4 decking. I would consider using pt fence planks. they are really strong enough for a safe floor for heavy people but they are fine for hounds. I wouldn't put any space between the planks. Put them together and when they dry they will leave a good space. I don't like my dogs dodging cracks every time they take a step.

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Horse mats on floor.

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With that big of an area, I'd probably just pour a concrete pad with a slight slope toward a "ditch" formed down one side. You can hose it all down that way. Put a drain on one end of the "ditch" to drain the water out. You can bleach the concrete periodically to keep the smell down. Anything wood will soak up urine and always smell. If I was going with a wood structure, I'd use greenhouse flooring or some type of plastic strips for the flooring. Any elevated design is more work to keep clean underneath in my opinion. *I'm new to this board and don't know how to post picture but I have both and the concrete works best for me.

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If it's not elevated, concrete is definitely the best. 2000 sq ft is cost a bunch.

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If you use wood cut all the edges at a slight angel so that when laid the crack will be wider at the bottom. This will keep crap from sticking between. It will be way easier to clean. ---Good Luck--- Kenny

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Re: Kennel floor

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With that big of an area, I'd probably just pour a concrete pad with a slight slope toward a "ditch" formed down one side. You can hose it all down that way. Put a drain on one end of the "ditch" to drain the water out. You can bleach the concrete periodically to keep the smell down. Anything wood will soak up urine and always smell. If I was going with a wood structure, I'd use greenhouse flooring or some type of plastic strips for the flooring. Any elevated design is more work to keep clean underneath in my opinion. *I'm new to this board and don't know how to post picture but I have both and the concrete works best for me.


We thought about concrete but were worried about the cost to do it. About how much would it cost for us to do concrete for 2,000 sq ft? Will it be cheaper to do it ourselves or hire a pro?
Also, what about using crusher dust? I read that you can use this in lieu of concrete and once you compact it, it's as tough as concrete but cheaper. Thoughts? Or maybe just level the ground, put down landscape fabric and then just lay down horse stall mats throughout?

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Concrete would cost roughly 5k if you did it all yourself. Maybe 12k if hired done. I'd never spend that. Why don't you just let them run in the grass? You're talking big bucks either way wood or concrete

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Concrete would cost roughly 5k if you did it all yourself. Maybe 12k if hired done. I'd never spend that. Why don't you just let them run in the grass? You're talking big bucks either way wood or concrete


Because its too messy for them. Where we live currently was grass and in a matter of weeks got worn down to mud and its just not sanitary enough. Plus where we're moving to is being cleared and its getting dug out and leveled which means zero grass to start with.

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Okay. I understand that. If I were you, I'd spend the 5k on a nice atv and run your dogs everyday if you have a gravel road to run them down.

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Concrete

2000 sq feet is roughly 25 cubic yards at 4" thick. That's plenty thick enough for a dog pad. Unless concrete has doubled over the last year, I believe it would be closer to $5000 to hire it out if your lot will already be graded.

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In Tennessee you could get the concrete for 2500 it will take about 25 yards to pour 2000 sq ft. And you should be able to get it bought and poured for no more than 5000 dollars should be cheaper than pt wood

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Concrete

I agree. The last time I checked, in Georgia, concrete was around $100 a cubic yard and about the same more to hire someone to pour and finish it.

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I have been contemplating this flooring.

http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplie...215_HA2217.html

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Plastic flooring

Greenhouse Megastore sells the same thing called Durabench greenhouse flooring. It's $19 for interlocking 2'x4' panels with 1.1" X 1.1" sq openings. I have it in my whelping kennel. It works ok but if you feed something that makes the dogs stool firmer, like Victor, then not everything will fall through and some will stick on there pretty good. This was with beagles so I'm sure big hounds will be even worse.

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If you want something quick and the ability to move it/take it with you I would suggest 1' x 1' concrete pavers. They cost $1 a piece at Lowe's so a 10 x 10 kennel costs $100. Keeps nails trimmed, easy clean up and less work than finishing concrete the right way.

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I'm not trying to get in your business but how many dogs are you trying to house? For a hunting dog a 6x12 pen is plenty big enough. At 2000 sqf that's 27 pens. Either way concrete is the way to go, everything else has to be replaced at some point. I have had them all and wood is not even close to as clean. I used epoxy garage floor paint on mine and I'm very happy with it. I have a 12x24 with 4 runs and a 2 block high wall between each kennel. So when I clean them it doesn't wash from one to the other and it cuts down on problems. I also built my dog houses out of block and lined the inside with plywood.

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Maybe some tileing and gravel

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i use crush and run in my kennels. Put some welded wire down before putting the crush and run down because dogs like to dig. Without the wire you will have mud again from them digging. It packs down good, dogs stay clean, kennel clean up is easy with a flat plastic poop shovel and a hoe to rack it into the shovel.

I have heard of people using sand that said it is nice but i haven't tried it.

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i use crush and run in my kennels. Put some welded wire down before putting the crush and run down because dogs like to dig. Without the wire you will have mud again from them digging. It packs down good, dogs stay clean, kennel clean up is easy with a flat plastic poop shovel and a hoe to rack it into the shovel.

I have heard of people using sand that said it is nice but i haven't tried it.



I have used sand before, it's not good at all. It gets very hot in the summer also. I have tried pea gravel as well, and it doesn't do well either.....
I have off ground kennels for the last 10 years......I HATE them.....too hard to keep clean. Going to pour me a 10x20 Concrete Slab, lay 2 courses of Block around perimeter and in between the 3 runs..and Heavy Duty Welded Wire Panels on top of block with a good metal roof and Insulated Dog Houses in each.
Nothing beats concrete for easy cleanup, even in winter.
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I went from above ground to concrete & will go above ground again soon. Concrete requires almost daily clean up, especially in the summer cause the odor is horrible. Even standing urine has a bad odor on mine. I kept sawdust under my above grounds and cleaned them once a week.

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I PREFER ABOVE GROUND. I DON'T LIKE TO CLEAN UP POOP ALL THE TIME EITHER. NO MUD. LESS FLIES.

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Crushed Lime stone. The first layer I put down is around 3/4 inch size. On top of that I put a layer of the small stuff they call flume. It's like 1/4 inch or less. It's cheap and helps keep the smell down. I've also known guys to use the ag lime "dust". It gets packed hard and water runs off. Really helps with the smell too.
Some use road pack lime stone. Its a mix, like is on the back roads.

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Re: Dog Run Flooring

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I'm building a large run area for my dogs. All total about 2,000 sq ft. Will wood work for flooring? Just regular PT 2x4 boards with about 1" between the boards? If so, what's the best way to keep it all clean? Simply hosing down each day with plain water or do I need to do anything extra?

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It sounds like the first thing we need you to do is tell us exactly what a "run area" is......is this just going to be used as some sort of exercise only area or is this the actual dogs living area where they will stay all the time and live ...."kennel"?????
I am with Mr. Rosamond...25 yards of concrete!!!! If this is living area {kennels}.....how many dogs do you have???? and/or just how much room do you think they need????

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I’m in the process of finishing up an elevated setup where I framed everything with treated lumber (which is equivalent to gold right now) and I’m using some 4’x4’ plastic polymer pallets I was able to source for $9 each (ended up being substantially more affordable than Dura Slat flooring I previously priced out). My setup are 4x8 covered runs with the dog house on the outside.
The pallets are very sturdy with a 1.25” x 1.25” grid opening so that hopefully majority of the waste will pass through the openings. I plan to put sawdust underneath them to aid in the cleanup as well and the 8’x8’ whelping pen I will more than likely do a solid floor as I don’t think the grin will work well with puppies or young dogs.
I am using treated 5/4 lumber to put a 2’ tall divider wall between the runs with 50” cattle panel on top. The roof is nothing special just a sloped 10’ tin roof. I am still playing with the idea of a setup where I can feed and water from the outside of the kennel but at the same time I like to lay my hands on each hound every day.
I decided to go elevated because I didn’t want to have the permanent concrete investment laying there on the ground. If need be I can disassemble this setup and move it to a new location if need be. I will try to update this forum in the future with all of my regrets in this setup and what I would do differently the next time but I feel that elevated is the way to go in my personal situation. Also as far as the 4x8 size I chose it due to the fact that I run hounds very regularly and one of the biggest comments I got from a lot of guys I asked about their setup was “4x8 is plenty big if you run them regularly, anything more is a waste of space and materials”

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