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coondogedog
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Older dog

Has anyone ever had much success starting a gyp at 24 months old? She runs but doesn’t tree by herself.

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Sure

I've had success starting older dogs in fact I'd prefer it over starting a pup theyre more mature and dont have to go through raising a pup from infancy. These are hounds that weren't handled at all or anything until they were 2 to 3 years old. How much has the hound been fooled with before? If it's in them you can bring it out some just start alot later than others. Alot of pups don't make it because they don't tree a coon at 6 months old and then they consider them a dud and ship them off or cull them. Everyone wants that super early starting pup but rarely works that way most of the time you have to put a lot of patience and time into them before they make anything. Back when I was a boy and before my time when my dad and papaw hunted they or anyone else around here wouldn't take a dog to the woods until it was atleast a year old. Now people have 4 month old pups in the woods hunting them expecting them to go tree a coon it's ridiculous. That's turned me against the SS pup program because if it isn't treein by a certain age they think it's a dud which isn't always true and then the hound isn't givin a proper chance. Now that being said it all depends on how much the hounds been fooled with and how it's been trained. There's more bad trainers than good ones and they'll do things that will set dogs back and blame the hound for there incompetence

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coondogedog
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This particular hound was shocked and won’t bark on trail or tree.

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Ask Wild Willie if he’s ever been able to bring a dog out of that.

Electronic training collars are only useful in the hands of a person that knows how to use them.

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jake waddell
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i agree with ridgerunner, although im not against ss program there are some dogs who are exceptional an thats what the program is for, but to get a pup an say you are going to make the ss thats rediculus , you work the dog where it is not the other way around, as great of a tool as the shock collar is , man has runined way more than he has made with one. work the dog where it is if you are willing to be patienct and the dog has a desire to hunt then she will come out of it with time, but i would not put a collar back on her that will only prolong her coming out of it.

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Originally posted by coondogedog
This particular hound was shocked and won’t bark on trail or tree.


I had that problem several years ago. Dog was about 1-1 1/2 years old. First night that he done anything and he done it all. Ran good and treed really hard, then he started squalling like crazy. I dug off to him, he left the tree and came to me. the collar had shorted out. Took him about a year and half to run and tree agin.When he did , he made a real good dog.

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