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rdmedders
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Hunting out

When should a young dog start hunting out any finding there own coon? Without any other dog!
I’ve got a 18 month dog that will tree coons but she not hunting out far , having to walk her some . Once she finds a track she will finish it.
I only hunt her by herself!

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LNeal
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Hunting out

Pull up close to a creek off the road cast your dog get back in the truck and wait.when you're dog starts leaving out and goes hunting stop walking it and start casting it.

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Reuben
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I prefer a pup that when turned loose it will range out immediately...but something I do not do with pups...I don’t take them for long walks on leash and I try not to call them to me at home or when in the woods...I start this when they are 8 weeks and build up from there...however I train a good handle on them...I call them to me and pet them up and then get to what I am doing...I don’t want to be the pups best entertainment with him wanting to hang with me at all times...

I usually take a young dog to a good hunting spot and cast him...I find a good spot to sit and relax and ignore the pup...do this a few times and chances are the pup will cast further out...once it is ranging out good you can move along slowly and the pup might range further out because it wants to get on game...

The first cast the pup might go 200 yards and if it doesn’t strike chances are it will check in...keep surfing the net and ignore pup when he comes back...the pup should make a wider loop on his next cast...at that time you can slowly move ahead and let the dog work...

Also when roading a pup with a side by side or 4 wheeler...if we move along quickly and not wait on the pup when he hits a good track then the pup will develop a bad habit of only running super hot tracks...also he won’t range out as far...when roading it is all about the dogs...we want to get the best out of them...

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CHEWBACH
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sitting here waiting on midnight to come ! open season in ohio. but to you question ! 18 mts old if been hunted hard! they should be busting a hole in the dark! some dogs just want tho when hunted alone! jmo. not sure how she been hunted ! could be part of your problems.

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Reuben
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Chewbach...I agree...at 1.5 years she should be gone hunting unless this is her style or handler mistakes have been made...

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DL NH
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Like so many things about our hunting dogs, hunt or search has more to do with genetic inheritance than it does with training. Any hound I've ever owned that was a close hunter was always a close hunter. Any hound I've ever owned that would get deep or hunted hard started out that way young and seemed to get deeper as they matured. Extreme hunt or desire tends to increase with age and maturity.

Reuben makes a good point in not being in a hurry to move on while your hound is hunting out an area. I've seen several hounds over the years that will check in more frequently while you're moving. Yet if you stop and sit or wait and they check in and find you're not moving they'll cast in deeper.

Personally I got no use for a hound that won't check back periodically if they haven't struck in. Part of it is because of the topography of the country I live and hunt in. Maybe it's because of all the years I hunted with no tracking equipment.

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Dan

I loved your post, I definitely want my dogs to check in period. I have no use for a dig that won't come back until it's trees. I am coon hunting, not dog hunting. I hunt in mountains and I want a dog that hunts good, but strikes in hearing. No fun in looking for a dog, finding them trees, but NEVER getting to enjoy hearing the race. Maybe like you said, I grew up without tracking equipment and wanted dogs that handled. I still do, even with the best tracking equipment available, I still want to listen to my dogs run and tree, that's the fun part. Dave

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Dave, sounds like we are on the same page.

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