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Lets try this question another way.

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Scenario 1
You are on a cast . You hear all the dogs suddenly open and all are struck.
Instantly cast realizes something is caught or being bayed.
Cast rushes in and finds dogs are on an old coon carcass at least a couple days old.
How do score dogs ?

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Scenario 2
You are on a cast . You hear all the dogs suddenly open and all are struck.
Instantly cast realizes something is caught or being bayed.
Cast rushes in and finds dogs are on an old opossum carcass at least a couple days old.
How do score dogs ?

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Scenario 3
You are on a cast . You hear all the dogs suddenly open and all are struck.
Instantly cast realizes something is caught or being bayed.
Cast rushes in and finds dogs are on an old deer carcass at least a couple days old.
How do score dogs ?

Reg Score... Champ score

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Pat tell me which answer you would like then I will agree with you.


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Pat tell me which answer you would like then I will agree with you.


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Here I go again Pat, no matter the correct answer, personally I believe all 3 scenarios should be scored alike. Also I would think the difference would be if they are "baying" or just stopped and eating on the carcass. To me if they're bayed up on it, they have ended their track and need to be handled and points deleted in all scenarios. If they're just found eating on the carcass, to me you would have to back out hope they roll on. Maybe Allen will post the correct answer lol.

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scores deleted on all scenarios there al decayed carcass

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Well it depends on what you're calling a carcass. How old is it ( how long has it been dead)? Because I know a few guys that if third dog caught a opossum in any cast and killed it they'd be trying to push for deleted points.

But the way I think this was handled in the advisor was deleted points on dead animals.

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But the way I think this was handled in the advisor was deleted points on dead animals.

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Only one problem here. Under current rules you can't call a dog in off of trail unless time out has been called - go hollering at your dog in the middle of a cast and see what happens. The calling dogs off trail has been deemed obsolete where it at one time fit under the time rules but no longer does, in this case the advisor column does not fit current rules or interpretations of them. But dogs do not have to be treed in to go handle and score, think of dogs that are stationary where it is believed that they have caught game. If it is a coon they have when you get there they receive plus strike points. The scenario mentioned in the advisor should have fit this just like if it was caught game and when reaching the dogs and seeing that it was in fact previously dead animal carcass the strike points would be deleted not plus, minus or scratch depending on what they had if it was a fresh kill or alive.

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But dogs do not have to be treed in to go handle and score, think of dogs that are stationary where it is believed that they have caught game. If it is a coon they have when you get there they receive plus strike points. The scenario mentioned in the advisor should have fit this just like if it was caught game and when reaching the dogs and seeing that it was in fact previously dead animal carcass the strike points would be deleted not plus, minus or scratch depending on what they had if it was a fresh kill or alive.

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IT SEEMS THAT EVERYTIME A BREED OR LINE OF DOGS GET POPULAR IT EVENTUALLY LEADS TO ITS RUINATION BY UNINFORMED PEOPLE BREEDING WITHOUT DOING THEIR RESEARCH FIRST.

Gone but never forgotten:
NtChGrCh Dryfork Punkin
NtChGrCh Dryfork Little Blue Baby Doll
2009 Pa Show Dog Of The Year
GrCh Dryfork Little Black Book
Gr.Ch. Make My Day Sunny
Gone too soon RIP my baby girl
Gr.Ch. Black Dog Black Cherry
GrCh Dryfork Black Dog Raine
One of kind and would make a believer out of you when you thought there were no coon left
Home of:
2009,2013,2018 Pa. State
Show Handler Of The Year
CH. Power Pack Pepper
2018 Pa. Show Dog Of Year
Gr.Ch. Batman's Poison Ivy
2011&2013 WTDA Pa State Champion
2011&2013 Overall Hunt For The Cure
Ch. Jay's Greenridge Heidi
In memory of my best friend "Jay"

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