Allen / UKC
Registered: Nov 2004
Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey
Richard you ask a bunch of questions you already know the answers to. LOL
Actually this question can be answered from the bottom up or the top down.
The bottom up answer is everyone that hunts should make it a point to learn the rules. Nothing wrong with learning and getting experience while hunting as long as you don't overstep your knowledge and cause problems because your lack of knowledge. It then moves up to the judges to know the rules and understand what they are accepting the responsibility to do. That is to fairly Judge. Then the club comes into play to act in the correct manner if a judge does not know or does not want to abide by the rules. Then UKC should get involved to deal with clubs who have problems.
Now from the Top Down. You have UKC first. I think a lot more could be and should be done in this area to make sure things run smoothly. If most of us were UKC I am not sure that after reading the boards you would be happy with the knowledge level of the judges and hunters out there. UKC should take some responsibility and I know I would if I was UKC to get the correct rules and interpretations out to the public. I think having the rules on the card is great. Then having an advisor that most people have never seen just clouds the issue.
Now for the Clubs. No club wants problems. So any club doing the right thing is not just going to hand the card out for anyone to judge.
The handler/hunter pays their money and spends their time, so why in the world wouldn't you want to know the rules. Why wouldn't you want the club to give the card to the most qualified person and why in the world wouldn't you want support from UKC if there is a problem.
There are problems and from the top down and the bottom up. I think there can be improvements.
Bruce makes some good points and I agree with most of them. There's definitely various ways to learn. I remember our club used to do some rules seminars/discussions at club meetings which were quite helpful.
One comment suggested the Advisor clouds matters. The Advisor (monthly column) includes correct scoring responses as it relates to the scenarios described. Not sure how that would cloud matters? I understand that not everyone gets the magazine and reads those articles but hopefully they provide more insight to those who do. Maybe I'm missing the point.
I couldn't agree more that it starts at the top. The other side of that is; there's only so much that can be done. We can write articles, talk to folks on the phone or at events, and things like that. You can lead a horse to water....... IMO, the biggest part lies on the part of each individual and to what extent they choose to reach out to expand their knowledge. There was a time when I was as green as grass, but I never found them as difficult to learn as some will suggest it is. Everyone has access to a rulebook but they don't just magically appear on a doorstep. It starts by actually reading every word. Trying to read into things too much is probably not a good idea.
We've also, in the past, conducted some rules seminars at events we travel to throughout the year. However, it seems that most are poorly attended. We're lucky to get a half dozen interested participants. Maybe it's a sign that the chairman is not a good teacher? But then, I look back to an old photo where one of the best chairman ever to discuss rules had a participant sitting in the front row taking a nap. lol.
It seems young kids are always eager to sit in on rules seminars and learn. Especially, when you make them fun and they come with some form of a contest. We're doing one of these each day at the Youth Nationals. Start time is 4:30 each day. Young or old - all are welcome to participate.
Hopefully, some of the polls and rules questions we been doing on this forum are a positive tool.
Just my two cents.
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