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N Williams
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The last few years Iíve noticed a lot of handlers donít include there dog in the picture when they are getting there picture took. Mainly in cast line ups. Just seems odd. Just curious why? Are they ashamed of how ugly there dog is.

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Afraid their owners will recognize them or someone will notice it's not the right dog. Just kidding. Go with the ugly idea.

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I canít speak on behalf of everyone but I personally donít do it because mine donít like other dogs sniffing his a$$ and most people donít understand that. I donít allow mine to sniff so he gets a lil uncomfortable when someone lets thereís run there nose up his behind. I try to keep mines mind on coons and when them dogs go to sniffing him he gets a lil growly, just being honest

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yadkinriver
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Actually sometimes they have sent the dog home with other family members before photos or on a two night hunt they take pictures next day and they want their dog to rest. Several different possibilites although I do know of a man that got his picture took with a ringer that he should have left in the box.

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Bruce m. Conkey
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I have one just like Old Hoss described. If you line him up with other dogs in the woods and take pictures. Everything is fine. Put him on a stage with a back drop at a major hunt or meet at a grocery store parking lot and try to get some pictures. All Heck will break loose. About 4 years ago they were taking some picture ofl dogs one at a time up in front of a back drop to get pictures of the hunt finalist. A Bluetick went before us and he peed on the backdrop. As he was coming down Corey walked my dog beside him and they about tore the stage down. Another occasion I woke up in the morning and had three calls from my handler at about 2 am. I got a hold of him and he said the final 4 met at a grocery store for pictures before the final cast started and my dog wasn't friendly towards another dog and the handler went ballistic. He was trying to call me and see if I wanted to withdraw him from the final cast. He didn't get me and he hunted him and he hunted and treed fine with every dog in the cast. He just doesn't like his picture taken when he is not in the woods. lol

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Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey
I have one just like Old Hoss described. If you line him up with other dogs in the woods and take pictures. Everything is fine. Put him on a stage with a back drop at a major hunt or meet at a grocery store parking lot and try to get some pictures. All Heck will break loose. About 4 years ago they were taking some picture ofl dogs one at a time up in front of a back drop to get pictures of the hunt finalist. A Bluetick went before us and he peed on the backdrop. As he was coming down Corey walked my dog beside him and they about tore the stage down. Another occasion I woke up in the morning and had three calls from my handler at about 2 am. I got a hold of him and he said the final 4 met at a grocery store for pictures before the final cast started and my dog wasn't friendly towards another dog and the handler went ballistic. He was trying to call me and see if I wanted to withdraw him from the final cast. He didn't get me and he hunted him and he hunted and treed fine with every dog in the cast. He just doesn't like his picture taken when he is not in the woods. lol



I'm same way Bruce I hate when I get my picture took at grocery store. Heck I just hate being at grocery store. Dont get me started about back in school when a kid would pee on back drop on picture day. It would make me fighting made also. Lol

I never saw very many nice hounds that didnt have a quirk about them somewhere. Maybe that's what made them nice hounds they are just little different than most.

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I owned the meanest , psychotic, man biting dog in the world !! After I sold him he made the front cover of coonhound bloodlines and commanded a $1,000 stud fee. The moment the guy called me I had went to the pickup to get somthing to let him Rest In Peace.


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It sounds like some people need Wild Willie's help more than they think they do.

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I have one that is growly around other male dogs at the truck. Never been in a fight in the woods and never been scratched. When he does get his picture taken i usually get him out last and stand on the end and hold his head straight lol. I think that's what makes him independent sometimes though. If i draw out with male dogs he's not going to be in the same direction, much less on the same tree as them 9 out of 10 times.

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I truly understand these things!

This problem is on the Rise because we all breed for independency to win hunts and impress friends !!! Little did many know That Independency goes hand in hand with the Pack leading Alpha Male and Female and they are Designed to EAT / HUNT ALONE !!!! We are breeding entire litters of Alpha Hounds,,, They are the most aggressive as Aggression is their Language and how they control the Pack. Aggression goes Hand IN Hand with Hunt as it takes aggression to open up on every track !!! Want, Depth and Drive are Tide to FOOD Aggression and The Alpha Is always the best for he or she takes lead in the hunt for food teaching their Pack how to provide for themselves !!!

These are good deserving Hounds. Pack leaders do the majority of all the winning because they are born More food aggressive. This simply means they hunt Harder and do not like to share food or game with other Dogs, Wich is the definition of an Alpha Male or Female. (Independent)

I will never stop breeding for indipendency myself because I can not win todays Hunts without it! So I developed 3 simple steps to Train all Dogs to Train under Adrenaline / Fight Mode.
Pre training , Easy and Drop after I compleate these steps I become a True K-9 Pack Leader in all Dogs minds! When this happens all things Dog become posible because Even Pack Leaders will respect and perform all my comands even when in Full Adrenaline / Fight Mode !!!

I have invented and used these 3 steps on of my young Dogs for over 30 years and in those 30 years, I have Never had one case of aggresion or shyness Ever !!!

I do not Tolerate miss placed aggression of any Kind nore do I ever experience these thing Because I become their True Pack leader in their mind!!!

Every fault Coonhounds have falls under Miss placed aggression. Off Game chases, Tree jacking, Face Barking, Slick Treeing, Road Runing , Tracks Blowing up on them to Not hunting Deep or Hard enough are ALL forms of Miss Placed aggression or the Lack there of.

When I train Dogs these 3 steps using Their own Languge, they Learn imeadiatly equaling Speed Training because I have Long Range Pack Leader respect out of them I experience none of these problems.
Pre Training, Easy and Drop is puppy prevention for all things good young Hounds do wrong.

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Rolin Blues
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pic problems

Saw this at $KC youth cast this spring. When this big Walker male hit the door & saw other dogs, you'd have thought he was going to eat them alive. I told Madi, "What the heck did we get ourselves into!!". We had our female, an English male & the Walker. They said he was like that every since he was a young dog. Hunted whole hour & never had any issues at trees. Some dogs just don't like pic taken, i guess. Take care, Ron.

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