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Over population will be the downfall of hunting for most people.50 years is a long time.At the rate things are going down hill its scary to think how it will be in 10 yrs,or 20.If you want to do something id say vote republican.Only chance to maybe and i say maybe stop every body in the world from immigrating to the USA.

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I hunted in the 50's with a guy who had curs and I had grade hounds. Never once did we compare "dogs". We did it for the friendship and the furs. The 60's a bunch of us would get together around a fire and listen to a pack run a red fox and again it was for the music and the BS that flew. Then the 70's I hunted with a guy who had Black and Tans and I had Blueticks and we had fun, music and a friendship that lasted until this spring when I went to his final resting place.

As far as doing something to the best of my ability??? With everyone carrying a video taking pocket phone with them and not smart enough to know what not to post, there's not a darn thing I can do to stop the idiots that are going to get hound hunting stopped!!

But you are in the right business because it wouldn't be long where all there will be is "talk" what hound hunting was like.

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I hunted in the 50's with a guy who had curs and I had grade hounds. Never once did we compare "dogs". We did it for the friendship and the furs. The 60's a bunch of us would get together around a fire and listen to a pack run a red fox and again it was for the music and the BS that flew. Then the 70's I hunted with a guy who had Black and Tans and I had Blueticks and we had fun, music and a friendship that lasted until this spring when I went to his final resting place.

As far as doing something to the best of my ability??? With everyone carrying a video taking pocket phone with them and not smart enough to know what not to post, there's not a darn thing I can do to stop the idiots that are going to get hound hunting stopped!!

But you are in the right business because it wouldn't be long where all there will be is "talk" what hound hunting was like.

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WOW, and to think with all those years of competing there are still dogs that fight at the tree, run tracks backwards and the best are those that can't find the right tree!! What then has really been accomplished with all those 100's of years of "comparing"???
I just wish I could ask those early "comparing hunters" how they like this new model.
But then I guess there's no wrong way to compare as long as you enjoy.

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Human nature... Henry Ford is quoted as saying the first automobile race happened 5 minutes after the second Model T rolled off the assembly line.

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did you take first or second???

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WOW, and to think with all those years of competing there are still dogs that fight at the tree, run tracks backwards and the best are those that can't find the right tree!! What then has really been accomplished with all those 100's of years of "comparing"???
I just wish I could ask those early "comparing hunters" how they like this new model.
But then I guess there's no wrong way to compare as long as you enjoy.

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in fact I like to hunt with the younger bunch because I don't have to smell Bengay all night.

Do have a problem with dogs that fight. Never seen it in the 50s-60s but did start to see it in the nite hunts starting in the 70s. And then at breed days in the 90s seen the biggest darn fight between to males from the same kennel that the owner wouldn't show and he did win the World Show one year with his line.

Competition?? Didn't have a problem with that when it was a competition to see who was the fastest track running hound, who would tree first out of the 4 hounds. But this walking to a single dog, to me with my "narrow perspective", doesn't show me who has the fastest track dog. And so me with my "narrow perspective" doesn't believe that the hunts are showing the best trailing, locating and treeing hound but without a doubt it does award the "most points". That's the new game in town and that is way,
"Dogs will back track, slick tree and fight at trees until the end of time" I guess I was lucky enough to hunt back when they didn't.

PS: those 3 things are a fault in my eyes, There will never be 2 fights with one wearing my collar, better have a high percentage 80-90 when treed and the backtracking best stop fast also. A young pup all excited may screw up once or twice, but after that no more excuses.

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What’s that old saying……………follow the money?

You wouldn’t be seeing the changes that have occurred in todays hounds if there wasn’t money involved. It really is that simple. Take the money out of it and see what happens in 10 years.

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To the original question about finding dogs today with electronics that we perhaps would have lost years ago. Had a guy make that statement last night. Our water in these swamps has went away fast and it seems these coon have also. Conditions are hard right now. Dogs covered a lot of ground and finally found one a long ways from us and its track took it even further away. I sure didn't enjoy the track because at a mile out, I just can't hear the dogs anymore. My grandson kept telling me the dog was barking. I would ask do you hear him and he would say every now but the bark indicatior says he is barking. I said don't go by that thing and listen for the dog. Lol. About ten minutes later. I was turning the bark indicator on my handheld. So I could see them barking as I sure couldn't hear anything. I am glad the young guys are enjoying this sport. But they do have a different perspective on what is going on using the electronics. Over an old guy using his ears. Sometimes trying to teach them old ways is frustrating. My grandson was testing out the new pathfinder and kept saying how nice it was working. That frustrated me also as I am a hardcore Garmin Fan. But the truth is. Just like the dogs of today are nice. So is the new Pathfinder. The best part of last night is I had a 11 month old out there that is a pretty wound up pup. She went about a mile out circled around and came back. Maybe barked once or twice at something. No trash was chased and that was good. Tuesday night we must have seen a dozen deer and several Diller's and possums moving. Last night nothing. They must have stayed home talking about the old days.

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I definitely WOULD NOT want to go back to having no track and train GPS system. These present day systems make it so that the majority of us, I believe, can go home at the end of our hunt with hounds in tow as much as 99% of the time.

I do strongly believe they have also influenced the way breeding decisions are made. Some of those decisions adversely effect many who are pleasure hunters first and enter hounds in competition events on occasion just to see how what’s on the end of their leash measures up to those of others.

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in fact I like to hunt with the younger bunch because I don't have to smell Bengay all night.

Do have a problem with dogs that fight. Never seen it in the 50s-60s but did start to see it in the nite hunts starting in the 70s. And then at breed days in the 90s seen the biggest darn fight between to males from the same kennel that the owner wouldn't show and he did win the World Show one year with his line.

Competition?? Didn't have a problem with that when it was a competition to see who was the fastest track running hound, who would tree first out of the 4 hounds. But this walking to a single dog, to me with my "narrow perspective", doesn't show me who has the fastest track dog. And so me with my "narrow perspective" doesn't believe that the hunts are showing the best trailing, locating and treeing hound but without a doubt it does award the "most points". That's the new game in town and that is way,
"Dogs will back track, slick tree and fight at trees until the end of time" I guess I was lucky enough to hunt back when they didn't.

PS: those 3 things are a fault in my eyes, There will never be 2 fights with one wearing my collar, better have a high percentage 80-90 when treed and the backtracking best stop fast also. A young pup all excited may screw up once or twice, but after that no more excuses.

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You got that right....on everything you said.
I watch Videos of these young guys out in a Rain Storm or in 7 inches of snow......LOL
Not too smart in my eyes and they will say Old Duke blasted thru & was 700 yards in 15 seconds, and are 8 for 8 in 1 hour.....LOL
Tim

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Originally posted by A House Cat
“Reward” is over rated.
Dogs are bred to do what they do naturally without fur in the mouth. Just a little praise is good enough imo. You ask me why? Think about this.
A bloodhound is trained to track human scent. Do you feed them a human leg when they did good lol?

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Originally posted by Reuben
I think finding and treeing the coon is the reward, knocking the coon out for a hot race to another tree is icing on the cake

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I stand corrected…thanks

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Walk with wick books is how I learned to hunt. He agreed with DL NH. Never ever re-run a coon , also hope like hell the coon will not bail out of the tree. Another point I would like to mention concerning the post. I am a Very Non-competitive person , I am out to have a good time , like "old timer" mentioned here. If your dog shows up my dog , I'm glad I got to see a great hound do his thing. My view on competition hunt is, Where else can you get a guided hunt for a 20 to 40 dollar entry fee.

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