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Registered: May 2004
Originally posted by pamjohnson
Pat I understand what you are saying but the reality of the dogs that are getting open and what your implying are different. The fix is not to minus these hounds but instead not to give them credit for such nonsense. It's not the perfect solution but the best solution.
So are you agreeing that no one should get credit for getting first strike? And all dogs should get equal credit for strikes?
I find it extremely hard to believe that babbling is as big a problem as the few individuals on here keep complaining . After over 30 years of competition hunting, judging nite champion and registered casts as a hunting and non hunting judge, judging RQE's, world hunt zones, spectating on many, many, more ,club hunts, ,pleasure hunts with various individuals young and old hounds. I can say unequivocally ,I have only seen 3-4 true babblers .
I said TRUE babblers not the ones people perceived to be or believed to be babbling.
To me it is a problem being blown out of proportion by individuals as I keep repeating that don't know the difference.
Now as to strike points are not important...ÖÖÖÖÖÖ
The last time I looked we are hunting COON H-O-U-N-D-S
a dog of a breed used for hunting, especially one able to track by scent.. Emphasized.. ESPECIALLY ONE ABLE TO TRACK BY SCENT !!
We are hunting them in competitions.
an organized event in which people try to win a prize by being the best, fastest, etc.
activity or condition of striving to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others.
Here again .Emphasized ...THE BEST ,THE FASTEST.
I will concede somewhat that after the January format change it no longer matters how many or how fast coons are treed on a hunt's each individual cast because you are not competing with other casts in the hunt any longer.
Under the new format you are a winner with one coon or five coon. Old format it was important to tree as many as you could to win the hunt.(Speed again)
However may be, the speed of getting a strike can still be a factor in winning your individual cast.
Equal strike points to all dogs would go against all logic of it being a COMPETITION hunt.
I have an idea. You guys wanting equal credit on all strikes. Lets give equal credit to all the dogs that get treed . After all what difference does it make who trees first as long as the coon is seen? (Compare to statements currently being written on this forum that speed of a strike has no bearing on a dogs ability)
On slick trees we will minus the dog there first and circle every one else because old slick tree should be penalized the most for being the fastest to get that slick tree.
We may as well change the name from competition hunt to a participation event.
We will then give a win to all dogs entered that finish their casts with any plus points .
Then everyone entered will given a PARTICIPATION TROPHY. This will level the playing field for all .
IT SEEMS THAT EVERYTIME A BREED OR LINE OF DOGS GET POPULAR IT EVENTUALLY LEADS TO ITS RUINATION BY UNINFORMED PEOPLE BREEDING WITHOUT DOING THEIR RESEARCH FIRST.
Gone but never forgotten:
NtChGrCh Dryfork Punkin
NtChGrCh Dryfork Little Blue Baby Doll
2009 Pa Show Dog Of The Year
GrCh Dryfork Little Black Book
2009,2013,2018 Pa. State
Show Handler Of The Year
GrCh Dryfork Black Dog Raine
Gr.Ch. Black Dog Black Cherry
Gr.Ch. Make My Day Sunny
2018 Pa. Show Dog Of Year
Gr.Ch. Batman's Poison Ivy
2011&2013 WTDA Pa State Champion
2011&2013 Overall Hunt For The Cure
Ch. Jay's Greenridge Heidi
In memory of my best friend "Jay"
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