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In partnership with Joe Newlin, Dan Kirschner and my wife Valerie Schmidt; we have officially launched a National Non-profit dedicated to our sportsmen/women!

Please check out NHTDA.org

The Home page and FAQ page, may be of particular interest if you are wanting to know what this organization is about.

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This is the culmination of a lot of "blood, sweat, and tears" on Dave and I's part. We just think that a nationally based organization is a great thing for this sport.....

Give us a look....see what we stand for....and sign up for the web site and the message board over there!

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I'm really surprised.....Just no interest? Don't think it's needed? Too complicated?

I'm here to tell you when some tree hugging anit hunter is campaining for taking away your right to free cast your dog....You might wish you had shown some interest in this organization.

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I tried to search and bring your site up, but can't find it...
could you post a hot link to it....

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I tried to search and bring your site up, but can't find it...
could you post a hot link to it....

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Thanks Red

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Originally posted by Oak Ridge
This is the culmination of a lot of "blood, sweat, and tears" on Dave and I's part. We just think that a nationally based organization is a great thing for this sport.....

Give us a look....see what we stand for....and sign up for the web site and the message board over there!

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I'm going to thank Robert for exercising his right to free speech. And I will continue to thank everyone else, for whatever feedback they choose to provide.

But in fairness, I think I should take the opportunity to respond to Robert's statements.

One, not continuing the TV show was by choice! I and Joe could have continued to produce the show at our cost, and make nothing more than pennies for our time, along with some great gear. But we decided that we had other goals and priorities in our life. But for 90% of the producers and hosts, you see on television, that is what they call "success". Other than a few like Waddel and Shockey, nobody makes any money on outdoor television! But unlike us, others choose to make that commitment at the expense of other demands on their lives, like family. I for one, decided to not make that choice!

At the same time, Joe and I were both repeatedly told that we couldn't put hounds and coon hunting on TV! "It was too technically challenging" and "nobody would support it"! I'm betting Robert was in the camp, of not supporting it. But guess what, we did put our sport on National TV (available to 65 million households) and we did so for two years! So I guess they were wrong about our being able. With regards to supporting it, perhaps too many found themselves in Robert's camp and it becaming a self-fulfilling prophecy.

With regards to Robert's other claims... well he is partially correct. I actually am blessed with a good deal of education, that I paid for myself! I have a BS in Engineering, and a Masters in Business. And having grown up on a small dairy farm, I would argue that I have a PHD in "country". In fact cleaning manure for many years, is partially how I paid for my education!

And with regards to "organizational knowledge"... well, when I'm not busy defending myself on this forum and starting a non-profit business to hopefully help folks like Robert and other Houndsmen and Tree Dog enthusiasts, I'm a Vice President for a Fortune 500 company, managing a 450 million dollar, business portfolio. And I'm pretty sure my boss, would dispute Robert's claim about my organizational skills.

But having said all that, I do have time, and will continue to make time to help promote and protect the sport I dearly love. Regardless of what others may say. And I hope, others will make time, and perhaps donate some resources, to the same worthy cause.

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As far as I am concerned it is long over due! Name one sporting group who doesn't have a national association.

Does any one have what it takes? That will remain foreseen, but anyone willing to tackle such an undertaking will get my support.

As far as organization, there are plenty of sporting groups who have all ready built that apple cart. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look and see what already works out there and what doesn't.

I have actually been throwing around the idea that hound hunters needed a national association for the last 2 years. I was even thinking of righting an article in all the hound magazines regarding the topic. The only thing holding me up was the reluctance to get involved at this time in my life with such a project. I made a promise to my wife to hold off on getting too involved with politics of any sort until my sons are all graduated high school.

Joe and Dave if I may make a suggestion, get hold of all the different state associations, and ask for their support and/or involvement. A good starting point would be just the put together a network of contacts in all the different state associations. It would be nice if we could benefit from other's hard work so every one doesn't have to cover the same ground over and over.

If hound hunters do not see the need, then all I can say is we will all reap the oats we sow. Federal and state governments wants to control us. Animal Rights organizations what to destroy our life style. I don't know maybe you all would rather sit home and watch the grammy awards then to cut a hound down a hardwood riverbottom.

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I don't even feel the need to respond to Robert's comments. Dave was pretty eloquent in his response. The simple fact that we were successful in doing what every other producer said could not be done....that will speak for itself.

Now, for those of you that have gone to http://NHTDA.org and tried to register... I apologize. I spent a long time testing this web site, and while I thought I had it ready for prime time...the one thing that I could not do over and over was to create accounts...I ran out of email addresses and login names.... Imagine my surprise to find out that folks were trying to sign up for the site and were not being successful.

I have that issue fixed now. Sorry for any inconvenience, but give it a try now.

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I like the idea of a national group to support our sport, and the idea of Helping houndsman sounds noble. That being said I personally would be more likely to donate if the money was going to fight PETA and the likes in court, which from my understanding it does not look like are the intentions of NHTDA. Educating youth sounds great but when it boils down to it, it is in the courts where it is "Us vs. Them" and whoever has the most money for lobbyist and lawyers is going to succeed in the end. Now, I am not trying knock your group in anyway and I applaud your efforts. I am just stating what I would like to see. Good luck.

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Thank You Joe, Dave and whom ever else that has gotten on board to support this much needed organization . This is certainly a big undertaking and If I may add, A MUCH NEEDED UNDERTAKING as well.

Joe and Dave are right in that if we plan to continue to free cast our hounds, we better get organized at the national level, in an effort to fight all the negative stuff that gets put on our plate.

Larry I agree with you 100%. I will now go check out their site. Thank You!!

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I like the idea. Kudos.

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Andy - long-term, finding a way to combat those organizations, that would like to do away with our way of life, is absolutely where we will be. But as you may have seen on our website, those organizations have 100s of millions of dollars, and at this point, our bank account has a few IOUs!

So... we need to get organized, and do what we can to help one another and our common goals, within the realm of affordability! Once we build-up our membership and our budgets, we will re-define our strategy. At this point in time, we'll need to take smaller steps.

Dave

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I like the idea of a national group to support our sport, and the idea of Helping houndsman sounds noble. That being said I personally would be more likely to donate if the money was going to fight PETA and the likes in court, which from my understanding it does not look like are the intentions of NHTDA. Educating youth sounds great but when it boils down to it, it is in the courts where it is "Us vs. Them" and whoever has the most money for lobbyist and lawyers is going to succeed in the end. Now, I am not trying knock your group in anyway and I applaud your efforts. I am just stating what I would like to see. Good luck.

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Way to go guys.Very good cause and yes our hound hunting rights need defended.As the for the negative post above that ant the first arrogant know it all post he's made.Theres all kinds of kinds.

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What better way to stimulate dues paying membership than to offer some legal guidance to members that have hound related legal problems.
A National group called the oathkeepers are doing this with second ammendment issues and it is driving their membership through the roof.

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10-4 Joe and Dave, I understand that completely. Thanks for what you're doing.

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Kudos to you guys for getting this off the ground. Something like this is long overdue. Hopefully state organizations & breed organizations will support this. Well done.

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Mark,

We are looking into involving the state organizations, but finding all of those contacts and getting our organization into circulation takes a little time.

We are hoping that not only the state and breed organizations get involved, but the Kennel Clubs, Safari Intl., and some of the other nationally based organizations like National Wild Turkey Federation, Ducks Unlimited, Qualil Unlimited and others sporting groups as well.

Time will tell. In the mean time, we are going to do what we can. We are starting out with our "Houndsmen helping Houndsment" effort and we will build from there.

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Joe,

I had a rather long involved list of hound organizations when I was doing the study.

What I did was gather up 12 months of Cooners, Bloodlines, and Full Crys, and made a list with contacts and addresses as a starting spot.

Guys,

Each state has a procedure for changing game laws. It really makes a difference to learn those procedures and to work within the system. It works to make contacts in DNR Offices and State Government before there are any issues.

Today's society is really about contacts and networks. The animal rights people know it, and even our state DNR offices now it. Many DNR offices attend regional conferences to share research, data, and pressing issues.

It only makes sense that hound hunters do the same.

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I paid up for a year. Whether or not I ever pay up again depends totally on what I see out this org in the year ahead. Here's tha thing Joe, between HTDA, NRA, breed association memberships, club membership, and now NHTA , my funds available for memberships is not unlimited. You can't do everything so I will be picking and choosing and only those who show results get my reup.

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Jim,

You are in the same boat as most, and what you're offering and expecting, is only fair!

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Hopefully this works but right now in Wisconsin we have a organization called Wisconsin Sporting Dogs Assoc. and to get people to get involved is like pulling eye teeth good luck to you guys.

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