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Starting pups to early,Also trying to work a 3rd or 4th dog.I can operate very well with 2 and maybe sometimes even work a 3rd dog alone into my program depending on the age and level of the 3, In reality, by me owning a 3rd dog has really been a thorn in my side, Many times I tell myself I will keep a pup and get it started and sell it...Problem is if it turns into a nice pup I can,t let a good prospect go.

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The gyp I am hunting now, I have set back really bad by letting a younger pup run with her to soon. I started her alone and she was doing great, she would take a coon track anyway it came hot or cold and she don't know what give up means. she treed 43 coons alone and as far out as 4 miles from where I dropped her out at (during rut). Then the mess up was I got a black and tan pup that was shy and I started turning him out with her and at first the gyp would out run him and do everything she could to get alone but the black and tan was getting better and better came around to be a nice pup so I split them up and started to hunt them alone. The out come is my gyp don't wont to leave the truck alone at all but she is starting to improve.

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Until this year I was strictly a pleasure hunter. Now I'm starting to dabble hear and there with the comps. I train all my pups not to use a leash in the woods. Which is great except when you drop 3 dogs in a comp hunt and your dog stands there waiting on "hunt em up" to come out your mouth. And of course you say it and then your accused of encouraging a dog to hunt. Long story short. My next pup will be trained to hunt off the leash.

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I would have resisted the urge to take young dogs to the hunts . I have had one dog that could hold his own at 12 months skill wise anyway with anything . I would wait until the dog was consistant , broke and mature . Ive seen alot of so called Nite Champions at under 2 that are horrible and now mentally disturbed from being or attempted to make them always split deep and lonely or get trashy due to all the dogs being 1 on the scorecard or getting fanged by the Gators lol . Ill just wait until their solid and if they dont get solid at least the guys I draw out with wont be subjected to my junky dog lol.

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Walk hunting....... Walking a pup in the general direction you want it to hunt..... IMO makes a lazier dog later in life

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Walk hunting....... Walking a pup in the general direction you want it to hunt..... IMO makes a lazier dog later in life

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Walk hunting....... Walking a pup in the general direction you want it to hunt..... IMO makes a lazier dog later in life

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I would have resisted the urge to take young dogs to the hunts . I have had one dog that could hold his own at 12 months skill wise anyway with anything . I would wait until the dog was consistant , broke and mature . Ive seen alot of so called Nite Champions at under 2 that are horrible and now mentally disturbed from being or attempted to make them always split deep and lonely or get trashy due to all the dogs being 1 on the scorecard or getting fanged by the Gators lol . Ill just wait until their solid and if they dont get solid at least the guys I draw out with wont be subjected to my junky dog lol.

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got back into it after being out for awhile, pulling coons up trees and watching him tree ike a machine, dont do that with a rat or nailor dog. one more thing keep your hands off a young hound as much as possible they;re just pups not mature hounds letm run and have some fun.

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Coon squaller mouth or bought squaller is one of the worse things you can do at the tree to hurt a young dog.

Pup will turn around and look at who is doing all that squalling and the squaller will never know that the pup is not barking up the tree but looking straight at him barking seen it happen too many times.

The one that hurts the worse though happened about 18 months ago and it was using the shocker with out any training before hand had got by with it all my life but could have ruined the best dog i ever bought with out going into details right now dog will not bark on track or tree but will tree three or 4 times a night and stay maybe 10 minutes and then on to tree another one always travels 5 to 10 miles a night but we are bringing him home most the time now.

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Starting pups to early,Also trying to work a 3rd or 4th dog.I can operate very well with 2 and maybe sometimes even work a 3rd dog alone into my program depending on the age and level of the 3, In reality, by me owning a 3rd dog has really been a thorn in my side, Many times I tell myself I will keep a pup and get it started and sell it...Problem is if it turns into a nice pup I can,t let a good prospect go.

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Shaking out and rerunning coons. Totally ruined my first dog. No better way to make one loose on the tree. I learned two lessons on first dog. Don't rerun coons and just because someone has hunted dogs 20-30 years don't mean they can train one . Old timers told me to jump them coons out and she would really make a track and tree dog. Well they were half right.

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I don't think it was so much about shaking the coon out to the old timers as it was who could climb the biggest tree !! Last time I climbed a tree a big boar hog put me there and after I got over being scared I was pretty impressed with myself lol.

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I have a donut belly, makes climbing difficult

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Meeeee too !!

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I wish I had shocked one mine pups less, unfortunately he tends to be trashy. Shock him for trashing, he doesn't hunt. Don't shock him he gets trashy. Go figure.

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I wish I had shocked one mine pups less, unfortunately he tends to be trashy. Shock him for trashing, he doesn't hunt. Don't shock him he gets trashy. Go figure.

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let someone talk me into not going to a 7 month old pup that was treeing alone his first night out when older dogs were running a track. He said oh that young dog don't have a coon. Old dogs didn't tree at all and went back across creek and treed on young dogs tree after he had left. So 2 things I did wrong with a nice young prospect didn't go to his first tree and never hunted him alone. Now if a young dog trees I go to them no matter what.

No more will I show them a caged coon after they have shown they can track and tree a coon.

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I will never take another pup to the woods until I'm sure he's accustomed to the sound of a 22 rifle. It's easier to get them used to the rifle than to undo the damage it can cause.

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