UKC Forum Member
Registered: May 2004
Originally posted by pamjohnson
people,,, who are people? The only 1 that matters is the judge. Now how is he supposed to know your dog? Is that his job?
Yes your dog may well be a honest track dog. Why should the judge decide if your dog is honest or any other dog in the cast is honest.
That is part of the problem with the babbling rule. There is know question about it rules need changed so you and your dog quit having this issue.
PEOPLE .. Judges on nite hunts AND people I have pleasure hunted with at various times.
As to the rule changes to fix???? The only changes I see being argued will HARM and PENALIZE not benefit these type of dogs. Proposals IMO are to benefit hotter nosed dogs.
As you state and I keep arguing ..THE JUDGE does not know my dog and should not be able to minus it on their discretion when they have no earthly idea what a true babbler or tracking dog with a good nose is.
Under the new format on the local circuit . It does not matter anymore if you tree one or ten coon .Just win your cast. The days of needing a high score to get a first place in Reg. or Nt ch casts are over.
WE are hunting hounds not curs. The rules were made to judge the best hounds and penalize unwanted SUCH AS SILENT DOGS .I don't think the original founders would ever have called a good open trailing hound an unwanted fault.
Once again... I say do away with the babbling dog rule entirely. Strike when open and minus when they go silent. Period.
Just for informational purposes here are some of the things I hear with her.,,,,
Your dog is barking on my dogs trackÖ.
I really like this one... Your dog is messing with my dogs head, LOL....
What is your dog running.....
She got to be running junk cause my dog isn't opening....
My dog has never failed to open with any dog.What is she doing......
There is no way she could strike a track that fast.....
Her track is going too far to be a coon...Ö.
Her tracks are too long....
A couple guys caught or shocked their dogs believing the track was no good , I did not and she went on to tree the coon and embarrass their owners.
I been told to turn her toward deer in a field . Which I did and she passed...
And I been made to turn loose in a mowed fields 100 yards from the woods to prove she "WAS" loose mouthing..... And she passed those tests every time so far (maybe next time, IDK).
She ranks on my totem pole in the top 2 or 3 best dogs I have owned over my time coon hunting .
IT SEEMS THAT EVERYTIME A BREED OR LINE OF DOGS GET POPULAR IT EVENTUALLY LEADS TO ITS RUINATION BY UNINFORMED PEOPLE BREEDING WITHOUT DOING THEIR RESEARCH FIRST.
Gone but never forgotten:
NtChGrCh Dryfork Punkin
NtChGrCh Dryfork Little Blue Baby Doll
2009 Pa Show Dog Of The Year
GrCh Dryfork Little Black Book
2009,2013,2018 Pa. State
Show Handler Of The Year
GrCh Dryfork Black Dog Raine
Gr.Ch. Black Dog Black Cherry
Gr.Ch. Make My Day Sunny
2018 Pa. Show Dog Of Year
Gr.Ch. Batman's Poison Ivy
2011&2013 WTDA Pa State Champion
2011&2013 Overall Hunt For The Cure
Ch. Jay's Greenridge Heidi
In memory of my best friend "Jay"
Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged