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Here's a question for all you that have done this. How many times can you do this on one female? After a few times does it affect the female? I mean cutting the female does it affect her? I realize if you are going to AI a female this procedure has a lot higher percentage for her to take. I have a female and have done this once that's why I'm asking.

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Here's a question for all you that have done this. How many times can you do this on one female? After a few times does it affect the female? I mean cutting the female does it affect her? I realize if you are going to AI a female this procedure has a lot higher percentage for her to take. I have a female and have done this once that's why I'm asking.

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I just check and you have do pre estrogen test actually pro be couple test they run around $40 each. Vet said prob take 3 test get timing just right. Then the actual procedure was lil over $200. Plus so much a day birding. So your looking between $400-$500 total cost.

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I just check and you have do pre estrogen test actually pro be couple test they run around $40 each. Vet said prob take 3 test get timing just right. Then the actual procedure was lil over $200. Plus so much a day birding. So your looking between $400-$500 total cost.

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The surgical procedure is not necessary. Have a trans cervical insemination done. It is less expensive and no recovery is needed for the female from being cut on. I have had it done twice here in NC, with Kristin Block of Block Sporthounds. I've had it done once with frozen semen and I got 9 pups and once with chilled and I got 11 pups.

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Here's the thing lovis. $300-$500 dollars for a stud fee. At least 2 full days of driving ( I'm in New England and its at least 1 full day of driving to the stud and 1 full day of driving back home). Figure in the gas money to get to and back from the stud dog. The hotel room..or shipping the stud dogs semen then returning the container. And then the money for the insemination and the progesterone tests leading up to the insemination. I'd rather play the odds of surgically AI (better odds of the female taking) than trans cervical AI. That's the money part. Now take in consideration the female only comes in 2xs a year so if she doesn't take its at least 1/2 a year to wait to do it all over again. If I'm breeding a female it's cause she can and has won and now I'm short on a dog to put in the hunts. Again it goes back to the better odds of her taking.

I was just trying to ask how many times people have done surgical AI. And did it affect the female after a few times

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Here's the thing lovis. $300-$500 dollars for a stud fee. At least 2 full days of driving ( I'm in New England and its at least 1 full day of driving to the stud and 1 full day of driving back home). Figure in the gas money to get to and back from the stud dog. The hotel room..or shipping the stud dogs semen then returning the container. And then the money for the insemination and the progesterone tests leading up to the insemination. I'd rather play the odds of surgically AI (better odds of the female taking) than trans cervical AI. That's the money part. Now take in consideration the female only comes in 2xs a year so if she doesn't take its at least 1/2 a year to wait to do it all over again. If I'm breeding a female it's cause she can and has won and now I'm short on a dog to put in the hunts. Again it goes back to the better odds of her taking.

I was just trying to ask how many times people have done surgical AI. And did it affect the female after a few times

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I done the surgical at least 3 times with a female and you could do itevery time you wanted to breed her.The only thing that is cut on the female is the hide the stomach muscles are just parted by hand nothing else is cut.They than reach in grab the fallopian tube and insert the needle in it about an inch from the ovarie and squirt the sperm right in the ovary.My vet places the females head down hill while shes waking up to help keep it from draining back out. Scope or surgical should work equally other than with surgical you have more control and less doubt where the sperm was deposited.How many times you could do it just depends how many liters you want your female to raise.

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I did the implant once and got no pups. In Kansas
I have bred Chigger 4 times one live and 3 with scope at NEVER GONE . Got 7 pups first two times and 8 the last time. She is bred and will pup the 7th of Feb and she is already bellied down . May have a basket full this time. The implant method is getting out of date an costs way more. The total bill is usually around 275.00 for scope.

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I have had two females surgically implanted both had pups 7n8 litters it cost about twice what scope does but I can't justify driving 2000 miles round trip to Wabash Indiana for 250$$! Dr. O'Hanlon is the best around here,if I raise anymore pups it will be surgically implant. Just because of convienence. JesseJ

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