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Luvmyhorse
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Originally posted by Briar
Facinating that there are so few pups out of this dog. I have NEVER heard a bad word said about him and on this board, that is nothing short of amazing.

Come on guys with good females. Let Joe help you out.

Tree Grippin Joe is probably the most under rated stud dog available to the public. Ronnie does not advertise Joe and that is more than likely the biggest reason he isn't used more. This dog is the complete package. He is a Grand Nite Champion, a PKC Gold Champion with winnings somewhere around $16,000, qualified for the AKC nationals this year and is making the trip down to hunt in them next week. He is reproducing coondogs, and.... the owner is also the breeder and a great guy to boot. Joe is a dog, and has his bad nights the same as any other dog, but night in and night out, he is about as consistent a coondog that has ever drawn a breath.

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Originally posted by Luvmyhorse
Tree Grippin Joe is probably the most under rated stud dog available to the public. Ronnie does not advertise Joe and that is more than likely the biggest reason he isn't used more. This dog is the complete package. He is a Grand Nite Champion, a PKC Gold Champion with winnings somewhere around $16,000, qualified for the AKC nationals this year and is making the trip down to hunt in them next week. He is reproducing coondogs, and.... the owner is also the breeder and a great guy to boot. Joe is a dog, and has his bad nights the same as any other dog, but night in and night out, he is about as consistent a coondog that has ever drawn a breath.

his dad- thunder was like that -- i only hunted with him but one time but my dad said he was the same evry night- looked like a million bucks one night and then the next then.....................

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Oak Ridge
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Originally posted by Forest
What kind of mouth does he have?

and more importantly, what kind of mouths does he throw?

He has a decent mouth, not the greatest, but good enough to win nearly every cast, deep and by himself with a coon.

My advice is to make sure that the female that you breed him to can bring as good a mouth, or better, to the breeding pen with her...you would be fine.

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oliesmith
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i have 3 young and nite champ with 3 wins toward grand he just turned 4 in his last 5 hunts he has won 4 i have never hunted him with a mouth that over powered him give me a call any time in any weather and i will show you a coon or a din olie smith 260-562-3264 howe in

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TreeSmokin
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Joe has a good mouth that carries very well, it's just not extremely loud. My female is the same way but all the pups seemed to have loud mouths that carried really good.Here is a picture of a male pup out of Joe and my female. Was split treeing at 7 months and was a natural starter, started running a track and treeing the 3rd time in the woods, but was sadly killed at the age of 10 months.

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Mr Massey
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Wally,you making plans to breed our pup??

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Wally Martin
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How Many Do You Want Mr Massey

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walkercash
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Are people buying his pups though? Being almost unknown has to be hard to get rid of the pups doesn't it?

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Ron Ashbaugh
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Are people buying his pups though? Being almost unknown has to be hard to get rid of the pups doesn't it?

Not a worry for those who are simply trying to better the breed. If I had a good female and knew of a stud that I believed was going to better my breed, I would rather give the pups away and breed to what I believed in than worry about whether or not I am going to be able to sell them and break even......JMO.

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Joe is a long way from being "almost unknown". The dog placed 2nd in his first prohunt and won the second prohunt he entered. He has made the later rounds of several world hunts. That dog is very well known amongst the higher level of money hunters. Getting rid of his pups is prolly the least of worries, getting one would be another matter.

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oliesmith
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Jim

Well said Jim.

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Oak Ridge
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Are people buying his pups though? Being almost unknown has to be hard to get rid of the pups doesn't it?

I've never seen a pup for sale..... Which tells me that there is not a "glut" of pups.

I raised a litter of pups out of him, and had more pups sold than what were born, most of the folks that booked pups were hard core hunters....the type that know a dog, that know what a dog should do, and know how a dog is re-producing.

If more people would concern themselves with how a dog is reproducing, and what the capabilities the dog is passing on, instead of how much they can get for a pup.....we would all be better off.

If you want a pup to replace the one your hunting now, breed to Joe...if you are looking to "get rich quick"...go to TN or OK and breed to a "popular stud".

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cliff mullenax
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Would like to here from more That know Joe & his pups

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02-15-2007 07:32 PM

oliesmith
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tree gripping joe

check the treeing walker look under johnnie conley and young dogs out of joe i have a house bred female should have pups around the 5 march this is the second cross all the last litter was sold when borned big mouth and lots of color pic of one treeing a cage coon at 4 month old sold 2 in ky larry henson he called and said they treed first night in woods at 5 months old call for more info on joe olie smith 260- 562-3264 cell 931-332-6448 have 4 dogs out of joe with a ntch with 3 wins the other a year or yonger i have been hunting for 40 years this is the first gyp i ever had bred thats how well i like joe

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02-19-2007 03:36 PM

Nat Thomas
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He is all coondog. As close to 100% accurate as a dog can be and throws winners.

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Lone Pine JB
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are those photos a good representation of how he actually trees?

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Luvmyhorse
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quote:
Originally posted by TreeSmokin
Here's a few pictures I took of Joe treed sorry about the glare on his face, I left my light on.

Forest,
This is how he has always treed when I've hunted with him. Right up on it blowing the top out.

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john r. kincaid
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Oak Ridge, that is about the smartest statement I've seen posted on here in a while, good job!

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cliff mullenax
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I realy like those pic's of him treeing. I am getting real interested in this joe dog. Sounds like he is coondog first / comp dog 2nd. & I like that. Olie what county is Howe In. Located in. I need it for Map Quest. Thanks.

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