novicane65
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Registered: Dec 2013
Location: Nichols Ny
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quote: Originally posted by Robert Johnson
Money side for any club should be the easy part. Here, I have footed the bills for the last 5 years and I am sure there are others that have done the same. Simply put, if a club wants to survive, it normally will, based on the genrosity of the few real members it has. The real variable in surviving is the amount of available lands it has to hunt on, and guides it can round up to use the land it has. In this area, that is becoming a very real issue, and there is nothing that anyone can do to change it. UKC could send 10,000.00 down here for a purse and it still would draw very few as for as guides go. No Hunt Director hunting would help that, and you could announce the MOH a month ahead of time and he/she be the best in the country, and you still don't change anything as far as ground. We moan and grown about things like a hunt director being able to hunt would change things. HOG WASH! Land owners are tired of their lands being encroached on by ole deep and lonely. If you want to save the sport, get a good handle on your dog, and keep them ON the available land you have to hunt. Our guides here won't guide because they know full well that someone will bring one of these dogs to their places and then the adjacent land owners start to complain, and soon they have no where to go. Oh the sport will survive easy enough, but this is the root of the sports trouble. Owners and handlers have to be responsible and man enough to withdraw and keep their hounds within the confines of the place their guides have carried them to hunt. BE RESPECTFUL of others and realize that winning at the expense of others losing their hunting priviledges is bad for ALL. The real world is stated above. I had the pleasure of talking with a gentlemen from the west and he stated that deer season is not a large problem for them. It is here. Land leases go on the average for $12-18.00 per acre with a lot of out of state folks paying as much as $25.00 per acre to hunt on. With a season the runs from September to Mid Janruary, it doesn't leave much good hunting time available, and that's if you can get the leasors to allow you to hunt during off season. Yep, let the hunt director hunt. That solves everything in most folks eyes, if they are blind. Our problems are GROUNDS TO HUNT ON. PUBLIC and PRIVATE. IN GEORGIA, deer hunting is a major business, and the dollars it draws can not be competed with by any other form of hunting, so go figure what is happening. No, its not a fault of any one person, but in our area, the deep and lonely has slam ruined the coon hunting. Let him get onto a lease and the trouble has begun, which it has, and will continue untill the small guy is done and gone. We are living the Walmart vs independent store thing in our sport and we don't want to admit it. We have to change our ways of hunting or we will lose the battle for sure. Yep, Let's focus on getting us a hunting director. That solves it all.
So is it the clubs fault or the guides fault for having a 10 acre patch to cut 3 or 4 dogs on? But then want to complain that the dogs go too deep. Next up is coon population in the spot you guide to. If you don't guide to a spot that has coons in it then what would you like the dogs to do? Make a 100 yard loop and come back? There's more issues than just the dogs. The other issues I've seen is guides that take you to a place that has very few coons but only have a very small area to cut loose on and that's coming from a guy that's never entered in a ukc cast just spectated on them. What I'm getting at is there's more to it than the dogs by far. I guess if your club could only hold 2 hunts a year then that would fix a bunch of this. The hunt numbers would be higher and the small clubs would fold up rather quickly. But there would be 50-60 dogs at every hunt right? I don't think so, you know just like everyone else does its the same 3-10 guys at every hunt. But what allowing the HD to hunt it would at least add another dog to the hunt if they wanted to hunt.
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