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130.7 mpg???? Gallons of what? I didn't realize you could get a gallon of electricity.

Well there is a formula you use to convert electric power over to petrol. You see what you do is, take the cost.... on second thought nevermind. The chinese arithmetic thing is gonna get in your way.🤔 Nevertheless I hope you understood why the original post is absolutely nonsense to someone who knows better but hey, you do you.

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Well there is a formula you use to convert electric power over to petrol. You see what you do is, take the cost.... on second thought nevermind. The chinese arithmetic thing is gonna get in your way.🤔 Nevertheless I hope you understood why the original post is absolutely nonsense to someone who knows better but hey, you do you.


Does any of that make any sense at all to anyone? You are right, I could never cipher that. Chinese arithmetic to figure it out how many miles a car can go on a gallon of electricity? How fitting.

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He used the term petrol. Is this guy in Europe?

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Oh my goodness, Biden keeps talking about increasing the income tax to pay for his Green Deal. But I just saw where the government is giving everyone that buys an electric car $7,500 off their income tax. Does that make any sense?

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Grade School American Math

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Originally posted by Wingman66
Well there is a formula you use to convert electric power over to petrol. You see what you do is, take the cost.... on second thought nevermind. The chinese arithmetic thing is gonna get in your way.🤔 Nevertheless I hope you understood why the original post is absolutely nonsense to someone who knows better but hey, you do you.


Let me try my grade school American Math on this.
Facts:
(1) Car 1 can go 100 miles on $15.00 of gas.
(2) Car 2 can go 300 miles on $15.00 of electricity.
(3) Gasoline costs $3.00 per gallon.
Questions:
(1) What is our MPG for Car 1
100 x (3.00/15.00)
= 100 x .20 = 20 MPG
(2) What is our equivalent MPG for Car 2 (same 15.00 cost)
= 300 x .20 = 60 MPG equivalent.

These will obviously vary based on gasoline and electricity costs. But, still we're looking at a 4th to 5th grade math level (I CAN DO THAT).

Basically looking at fuel cost per mile. A lot easier than the train problems we had to solve in 4th grade.

Chinese Arithmetic? I remember using an abacus in 2nd/3rd grade to learn tens. Better stop here. Don't want to get into kilometer equivalents (we'll leave that to our friends in Canada).

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Re: Grade School American Math

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Originally posted by honalieh
Let me try my grade school American Math on this.
Facts:
(1) Car 1 can go 100 miles on $15.00 of gas.
(2) Car 2 can go 300 miles on $15.00 of electricity.
(3) Gasoline costs $3.00 per gallon.
Questions:
(1) What is our MPG for Car 1
100 x (3.00/15.00)
= 100 x .20 = 20 MPG
(2) What is our equivalent MPG for Car 2 (same 15.00 cost)
= 300 x .20 = 60 MPG equivalent.

These will obviously vary based on gasoline and electricity costs. But, still we're looking at a 4th to 5th grade math level (I CAN DO THAT).

Basically looking at fuel cost per mile. A lot easier than the train problems we had to solve in 4th grade.

Chinese Arithmetic? I remember using an abacus in 2nd/3rd grade to learn tens. Better stop here. Don't want to get into kilometer equivalents (we'll leave that to our friends in Canada).




Grade school math would be great if based on actual stats instead of figures pulled out of thin air to pad the numbers of an electric vehicle.

If electricity costs $0.11 per kilowatt-hour, charging an all-electric vehicle with a 70-mile range (assuming a fully depleted 24 kWh battery) will cost about $2.64 to reach a full charge.
Nation wide average is 3.5 cents per mile to operate ,
The average electric vehicle requires about 30 kilowatt-hours to travel 100 miles

I guess even 300 miles sounds good but can't ever take on long road trip unless you plan a few hour stops every time you need a recharge. Then you need to check and see if you’ll be stopping in an area that has one.
Local usage will all it will ever amount to until they get longer range so you aren't tied up recharging every few hundred miles and reliable charging stations every where. OOPS but what if they are all in use when you arrive for a recharge ?

here are actual facts ............

https://www.corporatemonkeycpa.com/.../?cn-reloaded=1

https://providerpower.com/power-to-...%20calculation.

https://clark.com/cars/electric-car...hours.%E2%80%9D

https://avt.inl.gov/sites/default/f.../fsev/costs.pdf

https://www.greencarreports.com/new...-range%20ratio.

https://pod-point.com/guides/driver...arging%20point.

https://www.electricchoice.com/elec...rices-by-state/

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/how-mu...st%20per%20kWh.

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/24/9381...-count-the-ways

https://insideevs.com/reviews/44379...e-test-results/

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We still can't ignore the road tax. We're going to have different rates for electric cars just like road diesel and off-road diesel.

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You are right.

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We still can't ignore the road tax. We're going to have different rates for electric cars just like road diesel and off-road diesel.
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That's most certainly an issue. Our taxes on gas are used to fund highway construction/repairs. Those using electric vehicles aren't paying these taxes.

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That's most certainly an issue. Our taxes on gas are used to fund highway construction/repairs. Those using electric vehicles aren't paying these taxes.



I have already viewed where some states are entertaining legislation dropping the gas tax and imposing a mileage use tax.

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Electric vehicles are just another typical liberal solution to a problem. It sounded so good on paper but in the real world it just doesn't work.

We are just starting and already learning that Electric cars are way too expensive.
The government is going to have to pay for them.

We don't have enough electricity to charge them. Some states are already limiting the hours that you can charge them.

The cost of electricity to charge them will become as expensive as the gas for Electric cars.

Electric vehicles don't perform in Northern colder climates. Americans up North will have to have a gas powered vehicle for snowy winter months.

Producing more electricity will pollute the atmosphere as much as gas fired vehicles.

Don't run out and sell your fossil fueled vehicles. As the number of Electric vehicles goes up and fossil fuel use goes down, the price of gas will also go down because there will be plenty of it.

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So the electric vehicle ran out of power and has to be pushed by coal miners to a power source.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technol...ad-electric-car

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Oh my goodness, it now costs more per mile to charge an electric vehicle at one of the charging stations than it cost to buy gas. You also have to sit at the charging station while your vehicle charges. As we get more EV's, the demand and cost will climb. They sure aren't telling us that on main stream media.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Richard Lambert
[B]Oh my goodness, it now costs more per mile to charge an electric vehicle at one of the charging stations than it cost to buy gas. You also have to sit at the charging station while your vehicle charges. As we get more EV's, th

EV is NEVER gonna work on USA 85+ yr old power grid.

Ca. already telling the 10% that have EV NOT to charge during A/C use.

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All Biden cares about is electric vehicles. He has a one track mind. Just look at everything that he has done. It all comes back to electric vehicles. He doesn't care about the border, what he is doing to our economy, crime, China or our standing in the world. He will completely destroy our country in order to cram electric vehicles down our throats. What an idiot.

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Which is more important, electric vehicles or the defense of our country? Biden and the liberals think that electric vehicles are more important. Biden's defense budget does not even keep up with our record inflation. Biden keeps saying that he has increased defense spending by 3% but our inflation rate is at 5-6%. That means that he has actually decreased spending on defense by 2-3%. I guess that an economic idiot like Biden either doesn't understand or doesn't care. America is spending only 3% of our GDP on defense. Russia is spending 6% of theirs. No one knows what China is spending. This is part of the reason that Russia and China have become so emboldened.

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Which is more important, electric vehicles or the defense of our country? Biden and the liberals think that electric vehicles are more important. Biden's defense budget does not even keep up with our record inflation. Biden keeps saying that he has increased defense spending by 3% but our inflation rate is at 5-6%. That means that he has actually decreased spending on defense by 2-3%. I guess that an economic idiot like Biden either doesn't understand or doesn't care. America is spending only 3% of our GDP on defense. Russia is spending 6% of theirs. No one knows what China is spending. This is part of the reason that Russia and China have become so emboldened.

He doesn’t understand and doesn’t care…

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All Biden cares about is electric vehicles. He has a one track mind. Just look at everything that he has done. It all comes back to electric vehicles. He doesn't care about the border, what he is doing to our economy, crime, China or our standing in the world. He will completely destroy our country in order to cram electric vehicles down our throats. What an idiot.
I really don't think Biden is that sold on EV's. It's an excuse to kill the petroleum industry and make us dependent on foreign countries.

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