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Are you saying that UKC is not successful. My idea is listen to Allen. He is a lot smarter and knows a lot more about the business of a kennel club than I do. I would never try to tell him how to run UKC. I just go to the hunts.

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Are you saying that UKC is not successful. My idea is listen to Allen. He is a lot smarter and knows a lot more about the business of a kennel club than I do. I would never try to tell him how to run UKC. I just go to the hunts.

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Are you saying that UKC is not successful. My idea is listen to Allen. He is a lot smarter and knows a lot more about the business of a kennel club than I do. I would never try to tell him how to run UKC. I just go to the hunts.

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That’s the problem right there....”I just go to the hunts”. Sounds like you just want to let everyone else do all the work. It is basic business smarts. My MBA and 25 yrs of managing multi billion dollar contracts in the government validates my credentials to give suggestions. I learned early, you don’t have to be the smartest person in the room, just have smart people on your team. Empower those with creative ideas...educate them, give them the tools they need to successful, and be there to support them. It’s easy to just show up, what we need is people will to make a few sacrifices.

I guess I could always start my own kennel club here in the South. Hhhhmmm. What do you think Tar?

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That cheap $$ Kc comes with a lot of baggage. It would take a really good people person to fix it. Lots of broken promises. The south is a wide open market. I happen to know a really nice facility to hold a annual major hunt. Might even have a key to it.

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How many kc that had week day hunts have survived other than PKC?

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Do not let a couple of disparaging posts affect your desire to better UKC. You can see from the content of those posts that they do nothing themselves. One of the worst comments I hated to hear from folks I managed was " we have always done it this way". I was always looking for a better way to do things and encouraged those working for me to suggest a better way to do things, never be content to do things in the same old way if a better way exists. In changing times a business either changes or gets left behind. Dave

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How many kc that had week day hunts have survived other than PKC?

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Rest assured that the ideas presented will be carefully looked at and decisions will be made. Arguing among ourselves will not change anything for the good, it will only show division and no clear cut agenda on our part. No company can please ALL if it's customers, at best they try to please the majority of their customers. If we really want change, we will request change as a United group, not a bunch of different groups all wanting different changes. Dave

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Once more I’ll state....”this was merely a suggestion”. I won’t lose any sleep or anything or anything else for that matter if UKC doesn’t have weekday hunts. I just try and look ahead to see if something could be done to “HELP”....that’s all. I’m sure money can be pulled from somewhere to hand that $50,000 to a deserving hunter. Maybe the price of litter and dog registrations can be increased.....


I have hunted in competition hunts in 4 different states in the last two weeks. I mentioned a particular non-sanctioned Hunt that we are planning and gonna hold this winter.....guess what, a lot of people like it and will come. We are gonna give a ton of prizes and money to give away. On top of that, no registry will get any of it....only the hunters.

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Myself & others suggested multiple changes to improve the Performance Program at minimal cost to anyone years ago and far as I know nothing has changed & point values & interest continues to fall. I'm not sure why Ukc is so scared of change. I love to hunt and will do it for nothing but if there's a chance I can recoup some of my $ that's the route I'll take..

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Tim, your suggestion is a good one and I am sure that it will be considered. I am amazed at some folks who just oppose change for no valid reason, they are the kind who answer " that's the way we have always done things", never minding the fact that it is not the best way to do something. I respect those who want to better a program for others, even though they might not benefit themselves. Dave

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Here is a change that should be looked at, 2nd round 1 hour hunts with 1 dog or 2 dogs with the same owner, it would be Even worst on week day hunts, should require 2 Or 3 dogs With different owners for a win.
But What Do I Know?

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Here is a change that should be looked at, 2nd round 1 hour hunts with 1 dog or 2 dogs with the same owner, it would be Even worst on week day hunts, should require 2 Or 3 dogs With different owners for a win.
But What Do I Know?

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4 dogs is a good deal
1 dog is a good deal for only 1 person!

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Every well thought out change to better the game creates another weak spot.

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Every well thought out change to better the game creates another weak spot.

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Here is a change that should be looked at, 2nd round 1 hour hunts with 1 dog or 2 dogs with the same owner, it would be Even worst on week day hunts, should require 2 Or 3 dogs With different owners for a win.
But What Do I Know?

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Your not penalized, go as often as you can.
I have been on a 1 dog cast, at the world finals!

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Your not penalized, go as often as you can.
I have been on a 1 dog cast, at the world finals!

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Week night hunts would be good for people that work weekends

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Week night hunts would be good for people that work weekends

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I believe if UKC would do the following the overall numbers would increase.

Treat each time a dog is eligible to earn a cast win as an event no matter what the hunt time is. Double headers would be treated as 2 events.

Limit the amount of "events" to say 12 per year.

Let the individual clubs decide whether they want their "events" on a weekday or a weekend. The clubs would be trying to schedule hunts when the attendance would be the best for club revenue. This would decrease conflicts with other clubs due to distance. It would also allow clubs to move some hunts from dates that they had to take because of available date. This would allow a club in the north to move say a February hunt where attendance may be affected due to potential clod and snowy weather to a better month on a weekday, or in the south from a super hot month to a spring event where attendance would be better.

This would increase the availability of hunts to more people based on work schedules and potentially to better months of hunting without affecting the total amount of "events" that a club could hold during the year while giving the individual club more freedom to chose dates based on what would work best for them in their area.

Any cancelled hunts this year should be allowed to be rescheduled for a weekday hunt this year to get the overall numbers back up to where they need to be for this year.

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I believe if UKC would do the following the overall numbers would increase.

Treat each time a dog is eligible to earn a cast win as an event no matter what the hunt time is. Double headers would be treated as 2 events.

Limit the amount of "events" to say 12 per year.

Let the individual clubs decide whether they want their "events" on a weekday or a weekend. The clubs would be trying to schedule hunts when the attendance would be the best for club revenue. This would decrease conflicts with other clubs due to distance. It would also allow clubs to move some hunts from dates that they had to take because of available date. This would allow a club in the north to move say a February hunt where attendance may be affected due to potential clod and snowy weather to a better month on a weekday, or in the south from a super hot month to a spring event where attendance would be better.

This would increase the availability of hunts to more people based on work schedules and potentially to better months of hunting without affecting the total amount of "events" that a club could hold during the year while giving the individual club more freedom to chose dates based on what would work best for them in their area.

Any cancelled hunts this year should be allowed to be rescheduled for a weekday hunt this year to get the overall numbers back up to where they need to be for this year.

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