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tylerman
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Still working..doing it our way...why..cause the critics ain't done much to convince anyone their way is a success. Our way is why most of our customers are repeat customers...think about that. People bring good ones and are happy...if they bring sub par..they probably are not going to be so happy...but the smart ones know that they all don't make it...and if it don't make it here...well it's had ample effort and trys

Here is Tim Applebee red dog Otis...he didn't understand tree..but could track..so we went to the day work...cause it's like golf...a long drive means nothing if they can't play the short game..t reeing coon is the game...he bout ready for dark now

The Mississippi dogs...Dan and sadie..of Carl Coleman's probably ain't never seen snow before and maybe never will again

Duell Murphy's wired

Tim Applebees diamond

Couple of young red ones

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tylerman
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Well...I spoke of breeding being what it takes...cage trained phenomenon going home to tree her own and split tree...what..when it was told that they would be mee too dogs after being here..month after month..we prove some people have no idea what we do here or what they are talking about. If you hunt a weak line of me too dogs...you might have this problem....but you shouldn't have to train a dog to be independent...it has to be bred for it..and you gotta have enough sense to know the difference.

Here is yet another cage trained phenomenon...t reeing it's own...who you want to believe..the man with the proof over and over..or the haters who want to be us.

We still working on the next batches..takes more than talk or false claims..good bred dogs make us all look good with less excuses.

Hartley

Jipsey

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12-16-2018 02:19 AM

tylerman
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Good men with good dogs are what makes us look good...

Well it just keeps happening...another leaves..trees his own and splits with the coon....now the hater said over and over this would not happen..but the hater has to borrow dogs to go hunting..we start em..he don't but wants to predict the future of all dogs that come here and has been wrong at 100 percent...truth don't change...now the hater wants to be my friend after yrs of denial...ha ha..not a chance cause you can't trust some people with anything. Can't change a leopards spots. Just like trying to train independece...you should be breeding for it....only those with mee too lines worry about training mee too dogs.

See the difference is we actually hunt them...and most come here very green

Night after night...no hooking..no crooking...no hyped up facts or numbers to make us look good...it takes effort one real work..not including feed water shovel bedding

Over and over...a dog learns in correct reps and steady progression..some think indepence is made with a e collar

Better bred dogs make us all look good...you can't call common great and make your dog better...hard for some to understand.

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12-19-2018 10:47 PM

tylerman
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When you listen to wanna be trainers..and self claimed experts...then find out they don't start their own....just borrow and buy already made dogs..as the truth comes forth...you learn who to listen to and who tells the most bull. We start a great many month after month.,yr after yr...day and night till they get it right. You can spend your whole life trying to hide your lies...or get off your butt and get to work cause you can't just say it..you have to do it. You can't tell lies on the man that does the real work because the man that does the real work don't have to lie to make himself look good.

Time will always tell in the end. People tell on ya..good and bad...the man telling the truth don't have to justify his every action and don't have to cheat to make it...don't be fooled buy the fella that talks about what he can or will never be able to do....these methods work for dogs that were born with the grey matter between their ears.

You go to work...

And you keep on working

And you keep on working

And work some more

Some fellas hunt A dog last night....we tend to hunt a few

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12-29-2018 11:38 PM

tylerman
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Do the work...over and over..givem the opportunity...DOGS LEARN THROUGH REPS...and you keep progressing at the pace they need. Anyone can talk about it...anyone can take your money. Some will put the time in and work your dog..feed and water your dog...and know the difference when to push a dog..and when to ease up.YES..we start out most with some cage coon..with others for peer pressure..playing hide go seek no see em with coon.then on to feeders..then try em in all wild...progressive reps

Mark Netherys...hammer

Shane Smiths...monkey

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01-08-2019 03:29 PM

tylerman
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Work work work....the good ones make us look good

Not sure if this is 2nd or 3rd generation here...sire was here as a pup went on to take 5th or 6th in ukc world last yr...haven't seen any of the haters get a dog that far in their life....looked up the state race leaders...didn't see any of theirs on the list...funny how truth outperforms illusions

Andrew lancaster...spam

Tim Applebees. Otis

Ray waltz...jipsey

Nic Guevara..storm

Tim Applebees ..daisy

Daisy

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01-11-2019 08:33 PM

tylerman
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You go to work..make it happen...get the opportunity to the dog to have a chance to perform. Dogs learn in reps of correct lessons and slowly progressing the game...hardly any just run to the wild their 1st time in life and are an amazing coon dog....it's told way more often than it is. Some wanna tell ya....talk mostly of themselves and belittle others for an opinion....we go to work and watch the others struggle.

Patrick allen....Leon

Brent moss..snap

Jayne Russo...Hartley

Tim applebee..otis
Neon red blood

Tim applebee...diamond

Neon red Whammo

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01-19-2019 02:27 PM

tylerman
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There once was a man telling of why he was the best dog starter....best trainer...but..if you have a line of dogs...and you are starting your own..if you were so good...you would have so many young ones to hunt and title..you wouldn't have time to borrow dogs to title to make numbers...

Truth looks different to some folks....

We hunt em...plenty of internet experts to tell everyone how..

Brian baxters...Bill

Jeff jacksons..Flo

Gregg hufines..Smokey

Patrick allen..Leon

Neon red blood

Tim applebee..big hex

Brent moss...snap

Nic Guevara..storm..b and tan

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tylerman
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Truth keeps outperforming the lies told by some...they will never make this kind of numbers..have this quality...or see this many title...you see..it's not a fluke couple dogs...it's several every month...for yrs. Why we say day and night till they get it right...month after month ..yr after yr . Over and over cause we don't just talk and use people to make ourselves look better....we do the work..we do what we say we will. If the truth hurts you you ain't living right.Careful who you listen to and very careful who you believe...Truth is very very hard for some to tell cause it can't help them

Look at these left not long ago...the haters said this wasn't spose to happen...dogs would be ruined...never win....see when the truth we tell..and dogs leaving here tell truth...it makes the haters cringe..cause they know what they said..and so does every one else...and they have lost all credibility of ever telling truth

Wizard goes home to tree real coon in the wild

You gotta ask yourself..how does this keep happening....this is reality

Doug hansfords Walon

Jayne russo..Hartley

Mark Netherys hammer
Jeff Jackson's Flo

Crazy

Tim applebees..Texas

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02-22-2019 06:34 PM

tylerman
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Work .... it takes work ... the opportunity and progression. Some win small hunts and claim they're the greatest of dog starters but do you see them in state standings? Do you see them in the top 20 UKC world? Do you see them in the truck hunts? They either aren't as good as they claim or their bloodlines failing it's a whole lot easier with better bred dogs why you got to learn to leave some things alone and progress towards better things because good dogs ultimately always make you look better. Truth always outperforms in time.

Mark Netherys hammer

Andrew Lancaster..spam

Tim Applebees..tex

Boom

Boom and Gregg hufines Smokey

Paul Gibson's..ditto

Be back..we ain't done...

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tylerman
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Day and night till they get it right...month after month we actually doing what others only say they do....you gonna have haters when they weak and never accomplish much...but claim every small hunt a victory...or small producing lines as great...common dogs great....its a mental weakness for some...seems you are judged harder than they judge themselves..truth is an illusion. They got dogs in truck hunts..nope..dogs in finals of world hunts..nope...can't even get to a zone....that's why you got to be careful who you listen to cause some men CAN NOT tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth...only versions ....if the whole truth hurts you ..you are doing something wrong. We don't need more narsassit or schizophrenic people in the hound world than we already have...

You know your winning when they try to silence you and discredit what they have never ever done....work hard...be honest...never cheat....and let your character prove in time why you will always be the better man. If they hate you for being a good person and telling the truth....it's their mental problem...not yours

Go Dave go....they don't waste away here....if it's in em..we will find it

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tylerman
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Uh oh....more dogs winning....another cage trained phenomenon that over came the terrible training methods.....this is why we post the truth that makes those who lie cringe....it happens month after month in numbers they will never obtain because it takes better bred dogs ..those better bred dogs make us all look good with less work..less finageling. Then you don't have to call common great and oversell yourself....the dogs do it for you....don't buy into the sad excuses some give....they spend the whole life short of any real prize...and they put forth major effert...they short on dog and short on being able to see reality.

Loren Miller's Abe wins high score English at English sectional Sat night

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04-08-2019 11:20 PM

tylerman
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You do what you say you will...you work em..feed em..water em..no abuse...and the good ones make you look good....we dont try to make common dogs look great....you shouldnt ever lower yourself to those standards....to be accountable. Dont ruin your credibility with one lie..one misleading fact that turns into another...then another. And then DRAG in a couple others to help you orchestrate the deception that will always be found out in the end...truth will be told sooner or later...people will know...truth always outperforms lies

True breeding programs are built on growth..betterment....if your whole lifespan is local hunt wins...and that's you goal....great

But if you spend your whole lifespan telling it better than it is...always short of the goals you demand others set...no ukc world placements ever..with major effert..with nothing but repeated excuses....you only hurt and DRAG down all while continuing the damage.

What does it mean to you....the difference in competition and war is rules....if there are rules it's a sport..in war if you are not cheating you are not trying hard enough to win...in competition hunts some want you to obey the rules while the want to go to war....this is how some try to justify a separate set of judgements and rules....sorta like a participation trophy they need to try to feel they are as good ..equals so to speak to those they want to call peers. So they need to continue an illusion.

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04-23-2019 05:41 PM

tylerman
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Truth.....do you know who tells it..and who don't

It is not a version...an illusion....it is the whole story...as it is.

You better find the whole truth before you take a side or you are the next fool...the next victim. And if you are not smart enough to know the difference or refuse to see...you deserve what you get....or what you will never get in some cases.

Work work work......not talk...better Bred dogs...not excuses

Don't be led by those who cant....who never have and never will....

Weak men hate those who tell the truth...they know it...

Day and night we work to try to find improvement in every dog.

We stay busy..be honest...and stay booked way ahead for yrs because if it

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05-15-2019 08:01 PM

tylerman
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This is proof that the lord favors...blesses.. and gives to those who make effort to do right and follow the way he provides. And your enemy's fail and fall short because of there wrong doings.

telling you the truth....listen...it takes better bred dogs....winners...and it ain't on rare occasion . takes more than talk. You have to work and often you gonna be tired trying to get the most out of dogs and make people happy. Truth ..real work..care of a hound in reps....good dogs make you look good....then you don't need excuses for your dogs...no need to tell lies to try to make yourself seem better...no need to try to try to convince people what your not nor ever will be by doing the same things and not getting any farther than you ever have...it would seem tiresome but some repeat history of failure yr after yr.....winner are not talked....they are proven in hunts with the real competition....

Hartley won..again

And again

They won with sis a couple

They won a couple with Pam

And we still working on next batch

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06-10-2019 05:59 AM

tylerman
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You want truth..... we got where we are being honest and real work

Dogs learn in reps...slowly progressing the lessons as the dogs show you in confidence..ain't no magic potion...the better the dog the better you look..the key is the hound and proper technique...so be careful who you listen to and consider the source because some will never be who or what they claim. It's an illusion they desperately need you to believe to fill a void in themselves.

From pups

To yr olds

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07-12-2019 01:07 AM

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Anyone can tell you how...we do the work.

Many won't tell the whole truth for fear of being exposed for what the really are....or want you to think. Its a Weakness

Some will never be what they want cause they ain't happy with themselves

Trust me..they watching you if you work hard and produce results cause it worries them

If you tell the truth..the whole truth you won't be haunted buy your past

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08-16-2019 09:54 PM

tylerman
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Work....go dave go...haters dont got much to say about us anymore cause it dont work anymore..people know the truth. But they still watching us succeed. Work..better dogs...reps with real coon takes us where they never have been or will never go. And they will never ever do it it the numbers we do...they dont have enough time in life to ever catch up. When you think you got all the answers but never the real results...what do you really know.

Better dogs...the right work

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08-22-2019 11:14 PM

tylerman
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Winners....

To happy customers...

To the next set of young dogs

And the next..

Truth is..some people won't feed and water and work a dog enough ...some cant cause of work..kids..ect.......some do not have the patience....but some will tell you how...and some of them don't know much and seldom if ever start or train their own dogs...period...

Some talk about way more than they ever really do....day after day is hard work and is not for everyone.

It takes reps of work..progressing...alot...they don't learn much in a kennel or on a chain

And the next

And the next

And the next

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09-09-2019 01:38 AM

tylerman
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Congrats...over and over and over good bred dogs given the right chances from pup to adult make us all look good

Razor made 10th

Piper made 11th

Chad Cartwright says lady goes home and trees her own

We working on next batch of winners....you ever here guys say...I can make a poodle tree.....why don't they win with that tree poodle.

It take genetics...it's always been that way. Some will always have to finagle more..Work harder where the shouldn't have to...instead of getting a better line of dog....the good ones make you look good without all the work to have to create illusions

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Careful who you listen to...some people are not nor every will be a source of truth..the whole truth and nothing but the truth...time tells on em...common is still not great just cause they claim it...but cant win nothing that matters...their peers laugh at em....proof will always out work and outperform...we tell truth...so we don't have to hide from or remember the lies

Still working..day and night till they get it right.....they will get worked..fed...and see coon....

When they go home and tree real coon...again and again

Ask Jim Kirkpatrick how ranger is doing

Rush went home and trees him a coon...

Cory moravits dogs

Paul dents black female bell

Chad Cartwright red female dew

Rip up high on da wood

Trouble picking the tree

Steve hales walker ace

Chad mccoins black female sage

Neon Red Blood

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10-15-2019 01:25 AM

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Day and night till they get it right...month after month yr after yr the good ones make us all look good...reps of progressive lessons with lots of coon..creates opportunity ..creates ability to advance the training...real work..real effort with great care of the hound

Bryan Whitteds maverick

Andrew Lancaster copper

Chad Mccoins sage with copper

Jamie Livengood candy

Shane Smith flash
Tyler Dodson cash

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10-23-2019 10:11 PM

tylerman
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Let's start with exactly why I don't want to be a self claimed knowitall

Romans 1.22

Professing themselves wise....they become fools

Think about that ...I think it means in time..truth out weighs simple men's pride that don't hold much

I do love hearing news of dogs going home and happy owners

Over and over .....month after month ..yr after yr

Then on to this month's batch...you stay diligent...steady work and care of hounds...progressing lessons with lots of opportunity of real coon

Cause anyone can profess....some actually DO THE WORK.

They don't learn much on the chain or in the kennel

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11-03-2019 02:46 PM

tylerman
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Why do we have so many repeat and referral customers....how have we outlasted the smear campaign allowed by fools....we do the work and the good ones make us shine....real opportunity and real care of a hound.

Life ain't easy...but you gotta love what you do and prove in time..month after month..yr after yr...that you are the one telling the truth...world champ placements while haters can't get through a zone...ever....think about that.

You get a better stock of dogs ...you ddon't need excuses..blame others or tell lies on others to compensate you failure.

This is real truth...

Another nice red female

Chad mccoins sage

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11-27-2019 02:27 AM

tylerman
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Some of us hunted last night......it ain't all fun and games...work start with feed water care housing cleaning of kennels.....then filling feeders for coon...then hunting dogs...over and over in progressing steps.....day after day...month after month..yr after yr....winner after winner. Not everyone is good at..or has the time to start their own...but...We dont borrow dogs and claim we start em...even go as far to tell others how to do what we dont or can not do...that is a very very weak man selling illusions for their ego....we actually start em....over and over. It takes more than talk or one avg or common dog called great that never was or will be. Dogs in placements that some have tried their whole life to get to...and have never been...yet want to tell you how...think about that

Listen...it's a lol like golf...it don't matter how long the drive if they can't play the short game....in other words..if they can't tree an easy one....they likely never going to get much better