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richard boyd
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Nose power

What is the best way to get a 14 week old pup really using there noses ? Also do you think this really gets them ready when they are old enough to start hunting ? I'm sure it would have to help but just how much, if they are breed right and have it in them anyway. Thanks

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DL NH
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Widely cast a handful of puppy food on your lawn.

Just let your pup be a puppy for the most part. What it will have for a nose was already determined 1 nano second after fertilization occurred in the dams womb.

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I agree with the genetics being in place already, but you sure can exercise those genetic aspects. A lot of dogs have good noses, but have difficulty running tracks. You can lay down tracks and get your puppy used to running tracks long before they are ready to actually go hunting. Start with easy tracks and make them harder as the puppy improves, cross creeks, etc. and get the puppy used to things a coon would do. Developing natural traits is essential in dogs just like it is in humans. My hunting partner is one if the best dog trainers around and he does this with young pups.Dave

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LetM run loose.....that's the best way I have found ....it will come naturally ..all the laying of tracks is useless if they won't,can't use that nose..... naturally.

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Laying tracks help them learn how to use there nose. I use bacon, fry it up long enough to get the juices flowing. Tie it to a string and drag it around the yard. Just make sure you hang it where they can reach it. Other wise they can learn to jack the tree.

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richard boyd
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nose power

I have trained several pups. Some from top blood line dogs. Haven't ever tried getting them to use there nose at this young of age . Most of the time I just let them run lose, but for years now I haven't had one that I would call the real deal . yes I have had some that would tree coons all night but not what I would call a top notch hound . And yes I have had some that wouldn't worth killing . This time I'm doing things different up to the point where I normally start them so I appreciate all the help on this. Thanks Richard

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Teaching a hound to use his nose? A dog's primary sense is smell. Sometimes that's a difficult concept for humans to grasp. That would be like showing your young child lots of pictures to teach him how to use his eyes.

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Teaching a hound to use his nose? A dog's primary sense is smell. Sometimes that's a difficult concept for humans to grasp. That would be like showing your young child lots of pictures to teach him how to use his eyes.
X2 Take Dogwhispers advice

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X2 Take Dogwhispers advice


Read the Start to Finish thread on this board and you can get a picture of the way a pup that seems to show some natural ability is responding to her initial hunts at night after having been allowed to run free awhile. She obviously has what appears to be natural/genetic inclinations.

Many of the things that would have been a distraction had she been penned up in those early weeks she’s already been exposed to and is now paying attention to what the genetics behind her are triggering......or so it seems to me from what this fellow has been writing.

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Nose power...the pup is born with it...of course if your lucky to live in a good place where the pup runs loose he or she will be way ahead as far as experience and opportunities to learn...

It’s kind of like a 2 year old toddler going to a really good day care center 3 days a week and then progressing to pre-kindergarten...by time he goes to first grade he feels comfortable around other kids and teachers and will be way ahead of the kid that his first day of school was when in the first grade...this kid will be behind...same with the pup that stays penned up...

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I raised 6 or 7 generations of pups...I used to test them for winding, trailing and casting into the wind and finding...

I wanted to see who had a natural inclination to just wind and go find without any training just doing it naturally the first time on their own...and the ones that could find the most treats when casted...

The main reason I did this was to see who did what naturally...and who worked the best...because I wanted to breed and keep the naturals in hopes of improving each generation...

I also wanted to see how they used their brain...

Also, I saw it as a good training exercises...

You see an 8 week old pup on the first time to wind standing with nose to the wind...open the gate and something inside his head tells him to run into the wind and run straight to a treat and starts circling looking for more...I see this as natural...I also envision him in 10 months to find a hog 300 yards in the woods by just running off the wind currents...
Some dogs brain won’t click unless it’s a real hot scent in the wind...the natural doesn’t need much scent to click...

Always work the pup or pups before feeding time...you want them focused and full of want to...working after feeding their interest levels won’t be as keen...

Hungry pups when given tasty treats will go crazy for them...feed them the treats in the kennel the first few times so they get excited when you show up to the kennel...always come to them from upwind side so they are scenting the treats...scatter them in the yard where they can smell what’s out there...see if any pups are focused on what’s out there...open the gate and hiss them on and watch...

Don’t let the pups eat to many treats...you want them wanting more...

The best dog I ever raised showed me as a little pup what he could do and I knew he was going to be a good one...he made it look easy in the woods...

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Continuation from previous post...

For me it is very important in making sure the pup or pups develop their desire to hunt, track, wind and bay...
It’s really simple...

I want them hungry when testing and exposing them to different scenarios...
If they weren’t hungry they wouldn’t work as hard and could possibly lose interest...

I don’t make sessions long to prevent the pups from losing interest or creating boredom...

I want them fresh and full of energy so they can give me their best...

The idea is to heighten the level of desire or the want to in the pup or pups...

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