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2ol2hunt
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Excuse my ignorance but...

Every early fall on here I read about the bean fields and corn fields in Indiana and Ohio and what a problem folks have getting their dogs out of them. Someone please explain this to me. We have bean, corn and cotton fields in Alabama and I can't see the problem with coonhunting around them or in them. Explain the problem to me.

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I don't think it's much of a problem unless your dog gets on a coyote, then you might have a problem getting them out. I don't.

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Beans get knee high, dense and all vine up. You can't hardly walk in them. So it's pretty much a coon maze. Smart coon know a dog can't get threw them as fast as they can so they won't leave them. When you see a dog with no hair around its eyes, ears red and blisterd, nose raw and scabbed up its been in the beans. Corn only hurts dogs that can't run coon fast or jumps tracks. A good dog can push them out fast, and tend to catch coon on the ground. Pups can spend all nite in a corn field jumping from one hot track to another.

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I hunt around them everytime I cut loose dang near with not much problems. Itís not the early fall itís usually summer, fields up here can be 1000 acres. Bein a Tennessee boy by birth I hate to say, itís usually dogs from the south that come up here that get lost in them.

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Around here, people look forward to the corn fields, so they don't have to hunt in the stuff they usually do the rest of the year. They're about as easy as it gets.

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There alot bigger than our cornfields down here!!

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There alot bigger than our cornfields down here!!
I don't understand what the size of the fields have to do with the dogs and the coons.

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Unless you have seen some of those Northern or Midwest cornfields, you can not imagine how big they really are. Not only are they big, I mean big, hundreds of acres, they are so thick that a dog has a really tough and slow time getting through them. You ever try and walk through one, you would understand why the dogs have such a problem running coons in those big fields. Often times the coons just stay in those fields and dogs can trail for hours without pushing the coons out of the corn. Down South you just do not have cornfields anywhere close to the size of their fields, you just have to see them big fields to understand the problems dogs can have, same thing with the big thick soybean fields. Jkidd told you right, the Southern dogs that have never encountered such fields are the ones that have the most troubles. Dave

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The beans are thick enough there's no air moving and a dog can overheat and fall out.

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I don't understand what the size of the fields have to do with the dogs and the coons.
I've lived in those big cornfields in Illinois for the last forty years and I coonhunt also, and here's the bottom line the hounds that can't get that coon out of a 50 acre patch are the same dogs that will never get one out of a 500 acre field and yes I've had dogs burn one up for 2 1/2 hours before ,running one and trailing one is the big difference ....

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The beans are thick enough there's no air moving and a dog can overheat and fall out.
A coon wearing a fur coat and short legs and a short haired long legged hound chasing him and the hound is the one overheated! That don't make sense.

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A coon wearing a fur coat and short legs and a short haired long legged hound chasing him and the hound is the one overheated! That don't make sense.


This might help, a mouse will get through beans easier than a coon, a horse will get through beans easier than a dog, moral of the story is very short legs or very long legs do best. But no joking bean fields in late summer are no fun for man or beast

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where I hunt I always hunt in the corn fields when the corn is starting to get to the MILK stage and later on in the year all ways a coon is eating in there

then I first hunted in IOWA I said lets turn into the corn my local friend said U can if U want we are not ---THEN WE DROVE AROUND THE FIELD --2 1/2 long ---2 miles wide ---- we did end up in a corn field but not as large --the coon would go from one end to the other and move over a few rolls and all would start over again

if U like a good race it is fun

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Do y'all REALLY believe deep down inside your heart that a coon can stay ahead of a dog running hot for 2 or 3 hours on any type of ground?

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I do, you give a coon a 20 yard head start in a drilled bean field in late summer he ain't getting caught by a 50 lb dog, a 15 lb terrier maybe. Some will say I'm wrong but I've sure not seen it.

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Do y'all REALLY believe deep down inside your heart that a coon can stay ahead of a dog running hot for 2 or 3 hours on any type of ground?
I've seen it more than one time in these big cut-overs.

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I've been coonhunting since 1973 and those 2 or 3 hr. races ALWAYS ended up being deer races in those fields. Sometimes they would fall off and tree a coon around the edge but the long race was usually a deer.

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I've been coonhunting since 1973 and those 2 or 3 hr. races ALWAYS ended up being deer races in those fields. Sometimes they would fall off and tree a coon around the edge but the long race was usually a deer.
same thing with cutover!

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I've been coonhunting since 1973 and those 2 or 3 hr. races ALWAYS ended up being deer races in those fields. Sometimes they would fall off and tree a coon around the edge but the long race was usually a deer.
I'm confused. I've only been coon hunting since 1960. If you see the coon cross a road 3 times and never see a deer, is it still a deer?

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They can't be Walker dogs?

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They can't be Walker dogs?

A deer hunter told us they had run a coon 3 hours with 5 Walker fox hounds and shot him on the ground. He wouldn't climb.

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I'm sure a deer Hunter wouldn't fib or couldn't be mistaken.....A coon runs 12 mph.for a short distance a dog runs 28 mph.for a long distance the math is fairly easy.

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I'm sure a deer Hunter wouldn't fib or couldn't be mistaken.....A coon runs 12 mph.for a short distance a dog runs 28 mph.for a long distance the math is fairly easy.



Some breeds of dogs are able to run 28mph some breeds can run 40 mph but, there are none running anywhere near 28mph in a corn or bean field.

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Nor a coon either! But that's what makes it interesting and fun looking how other folks see the hunts!

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I'm sure a deer Hunter wouldn't fib or couldn't be mistaken.....A coon runs 12 mph.for a short distance a dog runs 28 mph.for a long distance the math is fairly easy.
In your case I'll just go with the title of this thread.

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