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Guys I've got a pup that is an every breath tree dog naturally, however this summer she gets very hot and will chew bad if the trees are small enough. she was on Purina One 26/16. I'm going to try victor 22/10 and 24/20 to drop the protein causing the heat. I'm hoping this will knock the heat off of her because when its cooler she's a nice tree dog but Im hoping she doesn't stick to the habit after switching feeds. anyone ever switch to victor or another feed that corrected chewing by cooling the dog off?

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Switching feed won't change it. It's genetic.

The old timers will tell you, if one will chew, they will stay.

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Your on the right track.... But u have to consider the "type" of protein ...is it a "hot" or "cold" produceing protein source..

Here's a protein heat produceing list.

Neutral Foods

Neutral foods can be used in combination with other foods to decrease the harshness of a very cold or very hot diet.

Beef
Buffalo
Pork
Sardine


Cooling Foods

Cooling foods are foods that allow the body to cool.

Duck
Rabbit


Warming Foods

Warming foods are foods that allow the body to develop and maintain warmth.

Chicken
Pheasant
Turkey


Hot Foods

Hot foods are the most heat generating foods that allow the body to develop and maintain warmth.

Lamb
Venison

Hope this helps. (TCM)

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You can’t break it, it’s in them if you find a way let me know been dealing with beavers for 20 yrs lol

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Don't care what you feed if you hunt a fat, out of shape dog thats a hard tree dog in hot weather good chance it will chew at the tree especially if it trees for a long time. Seen several that chewed in the summer that rarely chewed in the winter. If you are going to hunt in hot weather better to harden your heart and hunt a thin dog.

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You may be able to stop it or slow it way down. How does the dog chew with its front teeth or to the side with the back teeth? As far as protein causing one to chew no way the type of protein may cause one to run hotter than normal. All,protein sources are not equal. You can take a file and float there teeth and them take them hunting right after. The teeth will be a little sore and when they chew it will be sore.

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I can't believe we are now correlating tree gnawing with dog food.

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Here you go get a bunch of oak bark every day put one table spoon of canned dog food in their pan cover it with oak bark do that for 15 days don't hunt them and don't feed them nothing else !!



It will make a mental imprint the dog won't want to eat bark no more.




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Tar, will that work if the dog trees on an Elm tree?

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Here you go get a bunch of oak bark every day put one table spoon of canned dog food in their pan cover it with oak bark do that for 15 days don't hunt them and don't feed them nothing else !!



It will make a mental imprint the dog won't want to eat bark no more.




Tar

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I don't know I got that out of Bruce's new book :




Chapter six page 97 breaking the habitual tree chewer.


By :
Uncle Bruce



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You guys make me laugh LOL! You can also treat it like a opossum and throw bark in his dogbox and shock the hell out of him or maybe tie some around his neck and make him wear it until it rots...

That's a joke kids don't try it at home!

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She’s thinned down now hardest hunting dog I’ve owned. I don’t let them get out of shape. I hunt her hard no matter what time of year or weather. She just wasnt doing it when it was cooler but now I can tell when it’s 70 and humid at night she picking up chewing. I can tell she’s hot. I know that protein heats them up so I was just wondering if anyone had kick just by changing feed. I know two people now who corrected it by switching feed and backing down the protein. We’ll see, hopefully this victor is good feed and helps

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She’s thinned down now hardest hunting dog I’ve owned. I don’t let them get out of shape. I hunt her hard no matter what time of year or weather. She just wasnt doing it when it was cooler but now I can tell when it’s 70 and humid at night she picking up chewing. I can tell she’s hot. I know that protein heats them up so I was just wondering if anyone had kick just by changing feed. I know two people now who corrected it by switching feed and backing down the protein. We’ll see, hopefully this victor is good feed and helps

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I'm 71 years old and some of the best tree dogs I've had would chew or pull vines. All I can say is those kind will always be there and I've found them to have the coon the higher % of the time

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030 mig wire made like a retainer I used it several times in hunts 20 yrs ago the man who showed me this is well known hunter that has since passed to heaven he was a top hunter and forgot more than most hunters ever know

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I'm 71 years old and some of the best tree dogs I've had would chew or pull vines. All I can say is those kind will always be there and I've found them to have the coon the higher % of the time

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Originally posted by Pastor Ed
I'm 71 years old and some of the best tree dogs I've had would chew or pull vines. All I can say is those kind will always be there and I've found them to have the coon the higher % of the time

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by yadkintar
I don't know I got that out of Bruce's new book :




Chapter six page 97 breaking the habitual tree chewer.


By :
Uncle Bruce



Tar

Whats the name of this book and where can I order one?

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Tar don't tell me to order it off e bay. I ordered your light off e bay and they sent me a candle and a book of matches.

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Originally posted by yadkinriver
Tar don't tell me to order it off e bay. I ordered your light off e bay and they sent me a candle and a book of matches.

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Shhhhhhh they don't want you talking about that word on here they are mad at that chimaniese man right now !!



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Tjill I have not seen that done but I could see it working. As to dogs that chew being stay put tree dogs I would agree with that.


Shadinc you may think it’s comical about correlating chewing with dog food, but there is some truth in it. It may not be a 100% fix all for all dogs. Some dogs chew and you can never stop it, some chew and you can slow it down or stop it. And as far as the dog food some ingredients will cause a dog to run hotter than others. I’ll say it again people have one running hot and the first thing people say is you’re feeding too much protein. No you’re not you’re feeding the wrong kind of protein. Coonhounds are like any other athlete. They need proper nutrition. Which means fat and protein without the proper nutrition and proper conditioning they will not be at there best.

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