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Originally posted by Slim shady
Unfortunately it's just a dying sport...

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What effect does it have on pleasure hunting? Do you fellas that are having problems at clubs volunteer there or hold officer spots?

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Location: Greenville, Ky
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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Maybe that is the answer. Everyone should go out and find an aggresive, competitive young man and pay him to handle their dog. I wonder how many paid handlers will be at Autumn Oaks? I know that I had to hire Jared to handle my dog. He isn't very aggressive but he can be competitive. And he is all that I could afford.

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Registered: Feb 2012
Location: Harleton Texas
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Originally posted by Robert Johnson
Mini slam option should extend into week night hunts with 1 hour time limits. I know for me, I am not hunting a money hunt to win a title. eliminate title earnings from week night hunts, or come up with something other than the current method for earning such.

It has been proposed with numerous options in the past. The super slams are nice, but most people that work for a living are not going to pay a high entry fee around here, unless they have a way above average hound, which most paid way to much for. You won't find 16 to fill a hunt from this area. Even the $150 entry probably won't fill. A 50-100 will come far closer to filling than any other, and with a 1 hour week night category, it would work much better in this area. JMO, but a well educated one!! Some will say if you want that, hunt one of the other KC's, and they do have programs that allows for it, but the rules and procedures seem to get in the way of folks enjoying the hunt they paid to enter. Every time we hold a @KC hunt, Folks come back mad because someone wanted to scratch them right off the bat about something silly. And to think that a panel can go back to the woods, even hours after the tree was questioned, and a determination on whether or nor someone was right or wrong, and possibly bar a handler? Well folks, it gets hot down in Georgia, and that @KC rule proves someone has been in the sun way to long.
UKC prides itself in giving hunters what they want, and in helping clubs survive as well. Give them week night 1 hour hunts with whatever titling program they desire, and it will help us all. Clubs, Hunters, and UKC...again, JMO.

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Originally posted by Slim shady
Unfortunately it's just a dying sport...

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Location: Palatka, FL
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Loss of land plays a big part in the amount of coonhunting you can do. Overall here in FL I think there is more coonhunting and more interest in competition coonhunting than there ever has been.
I know one area which is the Scottsmore/Edgewater area that has had a strong following of coon hunters for years. Their hunting land being turned into housing tracts which is really hurting them and I feel bad about that for them. We had one of the little dreaded week nights hunts here last Thursday and our local guys were all tied up. I was wondering if we were going to have a hunt. We ended up with 6 dogs and two guys came from about an hour and a half from the north. One guy 90 miles from the south and two guys 60 miles from the west. I was surprised to say the least but glad to see them here. Conditions are not good right now and both cast killed snakes and were chest deep in water. One cast was won by a young lady who was with her Father and had a nice bone collector female. We might not be smart down here but we are tough! Just Thankful for what we have and hope it will be around a while. All we can do is our part in making people feel welcome at the hunts and try to put them in hunting conditions that have coon.

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Loss of land plays a big part in the amount of coonhunting you can do. Overall here in FL I think there is more coonhunting and more interest in competition coonhunting than there ever has been.
I know one area which is the Scottsmore/Edgewater area that has had a strong following of coon hunters for years. Their hunting land being turned into housing tracts which is really hurting them and I feel bad about that for them. We had one of the little dreaded week nights hunts here last Thursday and our local guys were all tied up. I was wondering if we were going to have a hunt. We ended up with 6 dogs and two guys came from about an hour and a half from the north. One guy 90 miles from the south and two guys 60 miles from the west. I was surprised to say the least but glad to see them here. Conditions are not good right now and both cast killed snakes and were chest deep in water. One cast was won by a young lady who was with her Father and had a nice bone collector female. We might not be smart down here but we are tough! Just Thankful for what we have and hope it will be around a while. All we can do is our part in making people feel welcome at the hunts and try to put them in hunting conditions that have coon.

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I have to give you southern boys credit. Snakes,gators, chest deep water. Up here in the land of the coons we complain about walking across corn rows with a heavy dew on and getting a little wet. Lol

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Location: Michigan
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I have to give you southern boys credit. Snakes,gators, chest deep water. Up here in the land of the coons we complain about walking across corn rows with a heavy dew on and getting a little wet. Lol

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Ain't no dunkin donuts in Marietta okla either but I bet there's one in Kalamazoo close to the office.



I like crispy cream better.

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Ain't no dunkin donuts in Marietta okla either but I bet there's one in Kalamazoo close to the office.



I like crispy cream better.

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I love coffee this is a little off topic but you know how I am when Mrs tar shops at the mall I set on the bench just so happens I was setting in front of one of those cigar shops I don't smoke but it was on of them were you could try them out I guess I seen this shelf in the front window I thought that looks like coffee and it was I bought a bag called Irish cream it was expensive but the best coffee I have ever drank lol.

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Originally posted by LittleCreek
Payed Handlers to win no matter what.

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Originally posted by Mike Knuckols
why eliminate titles earned from week day hunts . People need to realize that most of the country's work force works 12 hour rotating shifts with only a couple weekends per month off . Attendance is down due to most of the country is working on the weekend . Adapt to the market and bring in weekday hunts . weekday mini slams with a cash payout and an opportunity to earn titles

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Actually I feel bad about our conditions right now. The creek one cast crossed with water up to their chest I walked across with tennis shoes on back in March and didn't get wet.

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Those week night hunts will burn you out if you work far as the races part of it they are designed were you got to go to all of them to stay in even if your winning your loosing money plus I am not fond of the 1 hr hunts.

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Location: Harleton Texas
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Originally posted by joey
Mike, This experiment with the week night hunts has been going a long time in the other KC, It killed the attendance numbers at the hunts. I mean KILLED them. We went from having 16 to 20 dogs here on every weekend hunts to 1 cast maybe within a year of going to week night hunts. They are still showing up at the hunts but it makes it so there are so many of them they can pick and choose where they go. I don't need to come to your hunt tomorrow night because there are 4 more within driving distance this week. I would hate to see UKC go that same way. Its bad enough now.

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Location: SE Iowa
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I based this off the hunt results in the August bloodlines (actually plugged the numbers into a spreadsheet).

Here's what I found:

Average Hunt Size = 9 Dogs.
% of Hunts with 20 dogs or less: 98%.
% of Hunts with 10 dogs or less: 65%.
% of Hunts with 5 dogs or less: 23%.
% of Hunts with 8 dogs or less: 50%.

Noticed several 2 dog hunts that had Reg. and Nite Ch. winners.

What does that say to you???

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Some say it's the money, here in MO at our club we offer the winner of CH, NT. CH, 1st place Open the option of a Plaque or their entry fee back, most all take the plaque we had some take the money. This really surprised our club because everyone always says that UKC needs to pay$$ for it to increase the hunt #. Here the deer hunters not wanting a dog to run off there deer is a big problem and the MO Conservation pushing the deer hunting because it brings money to our state, coonhunting no money for Conservation.

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It is very unfortunate, but deer hunting is the #1 reason places to hunt have fallen off here in Georgia. The land companies charge a double figure per acre, and if you have a large tract, the average hunter can't afford the lease. Top that off with the un-educated deer hunter thinking all dog traffic runs off deer and you have a deal you will never win. I am sure it is mostly the same everywhere. It is all about money, and the small game guys are left out in the cold.

As for the trophy thing, we too offered entry fee back, dog food, or a trophy. Surprisingly, most wanted a $14.00 trophy vs. the $20.00 entry fee and $46.00 bag of dog food. Yep, they say its about the money and UKC needs to pay more, but the facts show different.

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Rock you remember a time when sombody run a stud add and they would take a picture with all their trophys that dog had won around them I got some pictures like that if I was drawing enough hunters to pay for them I would give trophys I got some guys I think would like them shoot I still like them lol.

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Says the titles don't mean as much as they used to. More hunts + less people = cheap titles.

It doesn't cost a lot to be a real coonhunter. Most of us started out with very little. In reality, it is the sport of the common man.

How many started with a bailing twine lead, a mag light and whatever dog they could find? I know I did. It's not the cost. It's the desire. How many young competition hunters now can even skin a coon or know how to put up fur. Coonhunting is not hunting raccoons anymore.

That is the difference. And it shows in the dogs and in the people that participate in sanctioned hunts of either registry.

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Rock you remember a time when sombody run a stud add and they would take a picture with all their trophys that dog had won around them I got some pictures like that if I was drawing enough hunters to pay for them I would give trophys I got some guys I think would like them shoot I still like them lol.

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We have a club here that gives all of the winners a card good for a free entry fee at their next hunt. It gives them an incentive to come back. And theoretically you can title your dog out without it costing you anything in entry fees.

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Originally posted by Chris Snyder
Says the titles don't mean as much as they used to. More hunts + less people = cheap titles.

It doesn't cost a lot to be a real coonhunter. Most of us started out with very little. In reality, it is the sport of the common man.

How many started with a bailing twine lead, a mag light and whatever dog they could find? I know I did. It's not the cost. It's the desire. How many young competition hunters now can even skin a coon or know how to put up fur. Coonhunting is not hunting raccoons anymore.

That is the difference. And it shows in the dogs and in the people that participate in sanctioned hunts of either registry.

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