Registered: Sep 2014
Location: tennessee
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I'm am trying to get a year uglystick pup straightened out. He is getting tree happy. He will tree on trees right in front of me 4 to 5 times per hunt. Hardly any tracking at all. I feel as if 90% if not more are completely slick. But with leaves on the trees it is hard to tell for sure. He made 4 trees the other night and didn't even cover 300 yards. 1st tree was a den the 2nd I believe was slick he left the 3rd tree when we got there and treed the 4th time. This time he actually had the coon. But even squall in the coon didn't look I just so happen to see his eyes once. The next time I took him he treed 5 times, didn't cover more than 400 yards and never seen anything. He did run a possum in the ground at the end. I need help bad!!!!

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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: North east Texas
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Here are a few things to look at. Right now we have a good kitten coon crop,that's good but kittens play alot and a good berry crop Muscadines, Elderberries, and Persimmons coming on now so that means climbing up and down trees checking the food out. From what you say the pup has alot of natural ability so if you wait a few days when things settle down and the leaves start to fall and you can see that the tree is blank without spending to much around the tree then start to correct him.

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It's a full moon too could be treeing squirrels

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Full moon dry conditions ,,,,bad tracking give him time

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If the dog is a year old and treeing that many slicks.I would get rid of him and start over with something else.I don't mean selling him!

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Had a bluetick like that years ago. He was scared to death another dog was going to tree before he did. Hunt your dog with a dog that will not back him on a slick if he pulls up short get his attention and send him on. Me and a friend hunted that bluetick alone. He would tree every 50 yards we would take turns getting his attention then send him on. After about 6 trees he decided he would get under a coon that night. Long story short after a few weeks of getting his ATTENTION he made a pretty nice hound. I wouldn't give up on the pup just yet. We done that in the winter , no leaves so we could check tree quickly.

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He's a pup! Just give him time....praise when he does tree a coon and kind of ignore the puppy stuff....enjoy the puppy I bet he will make you proud in a few short months Good Luck

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Registered: Sep 2014
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I really appreciate all the advice. I took him the other night and he treed 5 times within 150 yards. The last one was definitely slick so I whooped him (not bad just enough to get him off that tree) he then trailed for 250 yards and treed. I didn't see the coon but I was glad that he really TRIED to finish the track rather than just pulling up. Usually after he trees the first time and I send him on, he will run to a tree close by and tree. That makes me really mad.lol hopefully he will turn out, cause he minds and leads very well...just lacks on the hunting part

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I'd lay him up the leaves come off. Then I'd correct him if he pulls up slick. You don't want him to make a habit of pulling up empty. That would only make the problem worse, and harder to fix later.

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If the dog is a year old and treeing that many slicks.I would get rid of him and start over with something else.I don't mean selling him!

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My name is mike mizell.
You aint got nothing I want!

Their is plenty of natural hounds in our breed that are well balanced with track and tree.
If you settle for any thing less you will always be behind!

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Wrinkletreeknis
My name is mike mizell.
You aint got nothing I want!

Their is plenty of natural hounds in our breed that are well balanced with track and tree.
If you settle for any thing less you will always be behind!

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P.s he use to bend men into pretzels and kick their necks off. Don't know if he's still doing this or not lol.

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I don't understand how you justify to get rid of them at a year old. After they have proved that they can go get hooked, handles amazing and listens very well. In my opinion how a dog handles is as important as how it hunts. Anyways.....I know dogs that wasnt started till they were a year old and they turned out to be great dogs. One guy WILL NOT even start a dog until it is a year old and he always has good dogs. So I completely disagree that you should get rid of them at a year old if they show you they can tree coons and handle well.

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stop hunting him until the leaves are off so you are for sure a tree is slick. You got the hard part done by the sound of it because he tree's. Now you dont want to start whipping on him if there is a chance that he has the fur. I'm sure that leaving him at home for another 3 weeks wont hurt him a bit. Start the lesson when there are no leaves

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I don't understand how you justify to get rid of them at a year old. After they have proved that they can go get hooked, handles amazing and listens very well. In my opinion how a dog handles is as important as how it hunts. Anyways.....I know dogs that wasnt started till they were a year old and they turned out to be great dogs. One guy WILL NOT even start a dog until it is a year old and he always has good dogs. So I completely disagree that you should get rid of them at a year old if they show you they can tree coons and handle well.

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You asked for an opinion and I gave you mine.
I was not trying to hurt your feelings.
He is your dog you do what you want to with him!

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No hurt feelings here. I was just curious. I appreciate all of yalls opinions though. Every little bit helps

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Originally posted by b&t_4_life
I don't understand how you justify to get rid of them at a year old. After they have proved that they can go get hooked, handles amazing and listens very well. In my opinion how a dog handles is as important as how it hunts. Anyways.....I know dogs that wasnt started till they were a year old and they turned out to be great dogs. One guy WILL NOT even start a dog until it is a year old and he always has good dogs. So I completely disagree that you should get rid of them at a year old if they show you they can tree coons and handle well.

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Originally posted by rweller
Don't get rid of your dog. Any dog that can tree coons at a year old even if he is treeing slick can be fixed. You just have to work with them. When he trees slick and you know he's slick, get after him and send him on. If he's as smart as you say it won't take long and he will figure it out.

Good luck

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