John D
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Missouri
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quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
Why would you want to do away with them?
I am guessing alot of Veterans' casts do exactly what they were intended to do and let older guys hunt together and enjoy each others company and walk at the pace of their slowest member. Its a good concept.
But speaking from what I have seen and know is going on, there are several problems with these "veterans" casts.
1. An older person can walk up to an entry table with 3 easy entry cards and 3 entry fees and create his own cast. Just think, if 2 of your buddies and you can guarantee to hunt together, week after week, how that might change how many dogs you can title? The club can refuse his entries, but now you are refusing entries from "veterans"? Politically Incorrect!!
2. They aren't necessarily "veterans" at all. I personally reserve that term for those who have served in the military and done something for ALL of us.
3. Apparently the reason for these casts is to create casts where the pace is more friendly for those with trouble getting around. I can think of several guys 55 and older who can walk younger guys into the ground. The difference is not age, its physical ability.
4. Letting older guys hunt by themselves denies younger guys the chance to learn from the older ones. And, vice versa. Do we need to be creating divisions? Or,should we be drawing together?
5. Cheap wins. Normally if you have 8 dogs entered in Reg., you have 2 casts. But if you have 5 veterans and 3 non veterans, you will create an extra cast and now have 3 casts. That creates extra wins, waters down the performance points, producers lists, and so on.
6. Extra cast creating hardship on a club. Another guide and another judge is needed.
7. The club has no choice in the matter. If a veterans cast is requested, then they shall provide it, per UKC.
8. UKC does not have veterans casts at bigger events..... Probably would require more work to accommodate. :
At a minimum, clubs should have the authority to determine if veterans casts will be provided, or not. Only clubs really know what is going on at their events. If its a positive thing for the club and those at the event, then by all means it should be kept. If it turns into something negative then the club should be able to have some recourse besides denying entries.
If casts aren't staying together because anyone has trouble keeping up, then thats a separate issue. Address it.
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