UKC Forums UKC Website :: Hunting Ops :: All-Breed Sports :: Registration :: UKC Online Store
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Registration is free! Calendar Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Home  
UKC Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.3.0 UKC Forums > Departments > UKC Coonhounds > Proposal 5 - Leash-Locked
Option A, B, C, or Current Rule?
You do not have permission to vote on this poll.
Option A 26 16.25%
Option B 82 51.25%
Leave as is, per current "option to recast" rules. 52 32.50%
Total: 160 votes 100%
  [Edit Poll (moderators only)]

  Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Allen / UKC
Administrator

Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 9183

Proposal 5 - Leash-Locked

5. Leash-Locked.

• Option A: After 10 minutes of being leash-locked, handler may choose to recast dog or remain on leash while walking to dogs declared treed.

• Option B: Eliminate leash-lock rule altogether, unless all dogs are declared treed and cast decides to move to a new location after all trees have been scored. If cast decides to move, hunt time shall be stopped while walking to trees with dog(s) on leash. Hunt time shall be called back in during shining time only.




2019 UKC RULE PROPOSAL CLARIFICATIONS AND NOTES
Be advised, the following notes are the opinions/statements of those who submitted the proposals and may or may not necessarily reflect the opinion of UKC.

PROPOSAL 5: With some of the new format changes recently implemented, a lot of clubs are choosing the one-hour and 90-minute hunts. The pros of having dogs on the ground competing as much as possible is supported by many hunters. There are also times when you do need to be able to move locations. A couple options to consider in this proposal.

Last edited by Allen / UKC on 05-16-2019 at 01:15 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 05-16-2019 01:13 PM
Allen / UKC is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Allen / UKC Click here to Send Allen / UKC a Private Message Click Here to Email Allen / UKC Find more posts by Allen / UKC Add Allen / UKC to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
harleydan1956
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Canton, Ohio
Posts: 2585

The first dog treed would be the only dog able to try and tree another coon in a 1 hour hunt if dogs are split which is what this rule is pertaining to.
Leave it alone.

__________________
Lethal Blue kennels.
Where the females count and you will never see a "brood" female!
Dan and Kris Rosier
Canton, ohio
330-904-3392


Home of:
Gr Ch. Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Moonlight Serenade... Gr. Ch. Nite Ch PR Hillbillys Smokey River Dutch HTX X Gr. Ch. Nite CH. PR Lethal Blue Izabell Sitara
Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Lil Bit of Respect.... Ch. Nite Ch PR Shivers' Magic Lead X GR. Ch. Nite Ch PR Lethal Blue Betty Jane
PR. Lethal Blue Tayen Grace..... Nite Ch. Pr Coffins creek running J.R. X Gr Ch Nite Ch PR Lethal Blue Moonlite Serenade.



Gone but never forgotten
Gr. Ch. Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Izabell Sitara... Dual Gr. Ch PR Bowens Blue Deuce X Ch. Nite Ch. PR Becky.

Gr Ch Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Betty Jane...... PR. Crites Soggy Bottom Blue Banjo X PR. Mosquito Creek Tree mamma Sis

Gr Ch. Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Rattlin Samantha ... Dual Gr Ch PR Mid Ohio Rattlin Sam X Gr Ch PR. Lethal Blue Jet's Xena

Gr. Ch. Nite Ch Hillbilly's Smokey River Blue Dutch HTX..... Gr. Ch. Gr. Nite Ch Pr. Smokey River Tramp's Blue Lake and Pr. Misty River Blue Doll III.
(Dutch wasn't ours, but he was here and like one of the family)

Pr. Dan's little Porter.... my last beagle...

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 05-17-2019 12:54 AM
harleydan1956 is offline Click Here to See the Profile for harleydan1956 Click here to Send harleydan1956 a Private Message Click Here to Email harleydan1956 Find more posts by harleydan1956 Add harleydan1956 to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Dogwhisper
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Feb 2005
Location:
Posts: 1737

Get rid of "leash lock" altogether....
In a 1 hour hunt why "leash lock" any dog ,for any amount of time or distance , wether split or gang banging ?

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 05-17-2019 02:02 AM
Dogwhisper is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Dogwhisper Click here to Send Dogwhisper a Private Message Find more posts by Dogwhisper Add Dogwhisper to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
J.H. Sills
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Feb 2015
Location:
Posts: 40

I drove 17 hours to a hunt. I spent 40 mins of the 2 hour hunt leash locked because a guy treed his dog that he claimed was “300” yards away. We then walked for 18 minutes to get to where we could hear his dog barking.

I drove 17 hours to try my dog out against some other good dogs not to walk my dog on a leash through the woods.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 05-17-2019 05:58 AM
J.H. Sills is offline Click Here to See the Profile for J.H. Sills Click here to Send J.H. Sills a Private Message Click Here to Email J.H. Sills Find more posts by J.H. Sills Add J.H. Sills to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
dustin15
UKC Forum Member

Registered: May 2008
Location: indiana
Posts: 750

No leash lock sounds good till your hunting patch woods and gotta cut 2-3 times in same patch good way to get a dog killed and hard on guides around here

__________________
Tuff river kennels
Owned by: Dustin Marcum and Eddie Holliday
GR NITE CH 'PR' Tuff River Skinner(rip)
GR NITE CH PR' Tuff River Angel
GR NITE CH PKC CH PR' Tuff River Crank
RIP GR NITE CH PR' Marcum's Wild Solo (handler)

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 05-17-2019 06:24 AM
dustin15 is offline Click Here to See the Profile for dustin15 Click here to Send dustin15 a Private Message Click Here to Email dustin15 Find more posts by dustin15 Add dustin15 to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Richard Lambert
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
Posts: 22460

With Option A, handler doesn't have to recast his dog.. If he thinks the woods are too small he can keep him on the leash. With Option A you have the best of both worlds. However, I think that the time should be dropped to 5 minutes. But if you recast and the other handlers decide to call time out and move after scoring their tree, you had better be able to catch your dog.

Last edited by Richard Lambert on 05-17-2019 at 01:29 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 05-17-2019 01:21 PM
Richard Lambert is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Lambert Click here to Send Richard Lambert a Private Message Click Here to Email Richard Lambert Find more posts by Richard Lambert Add Richard Lambert to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
T Felderman
UKC Forum Member

Registered: May 2005
Location: Bellevue, IA
Posts: 1869

I see nothing wrong with UKCs current leash lock rule. If we want to get rid of something it should be any hunt less than 2 hours.]

Hunted under a registry that didn't have a leash lock rule a few times and it was miserable. Dogs were constantly by roads and places that we didn't have permission to hunt.

Last edited by T Felderman on 05-17-2019 at 04:32 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 05-17-2019 04:28 PM
T Felderman is offline Click Here to See the Profile for T Felderman Click here to Send T Felderman a Private Message Find more posts by T Felderman Add T Felderman to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
harleydan1956
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Canton, Ohio
Posts: 2585

quote:
Originally posted by T Felderman
I see nothing wrong with UKCs current leash lock rule. If we want to get rid of something it should be any hunt less than 2 hours.]

Hunted under a registry that didn't have a leash lock rule a few times and it was miserable. Dogs were constantly by roads and places that we didn't have permission to hunt.


That makes alot of sense. Or at least, only in hour hunts. Dead loners and a 4th strike first tree and could be beat by any dog with a coon. Handler has nothing to loose by cutting again. Except he is the only one out there to try to tree another one.

__________________
Lethal Blue kennels.
Where the females count and you will never see a "brood" female!
Dan and Kris Rosier
Canton, ohio
330-904-3392


Home of:
Gr Ch. Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Moonlight Serenade... Gr. Ch. Nite Ch PR Hillbillys Smokey River Dutch HTX X Gr. Ch. Nite CH. PR Lethal Blue Izabell Sitara
Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Lil Bit of Respect.... Ch. Nite Ch PR Shivers' Magic Lead X GR. Ch. Nite Ch PR Lethal Blue Betty Jane
PR. Lethal Blue Tayen Grace..... Nite Ch. Pr Coffins creek running J.R. X Gr Ch Nite Ch PR Lethal Blue Moonlite Serenade.



Gone but never forgotten
Gr. Ch. Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Izabell Sitara... Dual Gr. Ch PR Bowens Blue Deuce X Ch. Nite Ch. PR Becky.

Gr Ch Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Betty Jane...... PR. Crites Soggy Bottom Blue Banjo X PR. Mosquito Creek Tree mamma Sis

Gr Ch. Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Rattlin Samantha ... Dual Gr Ch PR Mid Ohio Rattlin Sam X Gr Ch PR. Lethal Blue Jet's Xena

Gr. Ch. Nite Ch Hillbilly's Smokey River Blue Dutch HTX..... Gr. Ch. Gr. Nite Ch Pr. Smokey River Tramp's Blue Lake and Pr. Misty River Blue Doll III.
(Dutch wasn't ours, but he was here and like one of the family)

Pr. Dan's little Porter.... my last beagle...

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 05-17-2019 04:45 PM
harleydan1956 is offline Click Here to See the Profile for harleydan1956 Click here to Send harleydan1956 a Private Message Click Here to Email harleydan1956 Find more posts by harleydan1956 Add harleydan1956 to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Mike Knuckols
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Feb 2012
Location: Harleton Texas
Posts: 488

quote:
Originally posted by harleydan1956
The first dog treed would be the only dog able to try and tree another coon in a 1 hour hunt if dogs are split which is what this rule is pertaining to.
Leave it alone.

__________________
Mike Knuckols
Cold Traxx Kennels .com
"The Big Yummer "

Home of :
CH NITECH Whitemans Poison
GRCH NITECH Cold Traxx Extra Man
CH GRNITECH Kings Hardwood Ranger
UKC CH PKC CH CHKC CH Cold Traxx Man Child
GRNTCH PKC CH Hunt it off Bella
Cold Traxx Southern Honey
Cold Traxx Mattie
Cold Traxx Super Freak



Gone but never forgotten :
NITECH McFarlands Joe
Knuckols Hooker
NITECH Cypress River Chance
NITECH Cypress River Honey
NITECH Cypress River Princess
NITECH Newcombs Miss Molly
NITECH Wilsons Hardwood Ann
GRCH GRNTCH Paulding Forrest Bubba

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 05-19-2019 04:27 AM
Mike Knuckols is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Knuckols Click here to Send Mike Knuckols a Private Message Click Here to Email Mike Knuckols Find more posts by Mike Knuckols Add Mike Knuckols to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Richard Lambert
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
Posts: 22460

Option A... If you are walking between split trees, then you call time out after 10 minutes. So how would you recast a dog If you called time out?

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 05-21-2019 03:41 AM
Richard Lambert is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Lambert Click here to Send Richard Lambert a Private Message Click Here to Email Richard Lambert Find more posts by Richard Lambert Add Richard Lambert to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
All times are GMT. The time now is 02:12 PM. Post New Thread    Post A Reply
  Last Thread   Next Thread
Show Printable Version | Email this Page | Subscribe to this Thread


Forum Jump:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
< Contact Us - United Kennel Club >

Copyright 2003-2020, United Kennel Club
Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.3.0
(vBulletin courtesy Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.)