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N Williams
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Stop complaining-get a rich manís dog

Stop blaming the rules. Itís whatís on the end of your leash. Look for a dog that does the following

- leaves like a rocket not worrying about whatís lined up next to it is doing or going.
- fines a coon and trees it with little to no downtime.
ó- remember contrary to what people on this forum or your friends tell you the most downtime you will ever have is when your hound is treed and donít produce you plus points. Thatís the most downtime you will ever have. So accuracy is the name of the game
-will recut hard off the tree and not go to treed or trailing dog. And go tree another one with no downtime.
-take it to hunts and campaign it. You wonít win every night but will find yourself in the winners circle all the time.
- someone you draw will tell a rich man about your dog.
- you will get a phone call one day from a rich man.
- rich man will probably then own your dog even if it donít strike automatically.
Thanks for reading

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Lol. That pretty well tells the truth about what is happening these days. I am old school myself and remember when dogs like that could not be bought at any price as they meant much more to their owner/s. It seems like today that dogs are just another tool to be bought and sold just as a truck or any other tool. I bought and kept my dogs until they died if they were coon dogs. Some things mean more than money or at least they used to. Dave

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Lol. That pretty well tells the truth about what is happening these days. I am old school myself and remember when dogs like that could not be bought at any price as they meant much more to their owner/s. It seems like today that dogs are just another tool to be bought and sold just as a truck or any other tool. I bought and kept my dogs until they died if they were coon dogs. Some things mean more than money or at least they used to. Dave


Back about 6 years ago I drew Barry kiddy at the Alabama pro hunt. When we got to where we were hunting he pulled that Power Trip dog out of the box. At the time he was just a pup and he was hunting him at a pro hunt. I said what you got there Kiddy. He said ďNick this here is a rich manís dogĒ.lol. I keep looking for a rich manís dog at a poor boys price.

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The one thing I keep seeing over and over is folks with dogs that I call junk and them asking a "coon dog" price. Seems like a lot of folks think every dog is a coon dog and price them accordingly. Lol. I just shake my head and laugh. Real coon dogs are worth whatever they are priced at, it's amazing how many think a cull is valuable. Dave

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Re: Nick

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The one thing I keep seeing over and over is folks with dogs that I call junk and them asking a "coon dog" price. Seems like a lot of folks think every dog is a coon dog and price them accordingly. Lol. I just shake my head and laugh. Real coon dogs are worth whatever they are priced at, it's amazing how many think a cull is valuable. Dave


I agree, people say well look at the amount of money can be won today in the hunts. Well only 2% of the dogs are at a level of skill and that a handler should have confidence in to put down $2000 for an entry fee. However 98% of sellers believe those dogs can compete.

I have and always will be an eight week old puppy and train/raise myself. If it is junk at least I can blame myself or if and I do put the effort in, I can blame the dog and Iím not out thousands or took a cull off someoneís hands for thousands.

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Re: Nick

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
The one thing I keep seeing over and over is folks with dogs that I call junk and them asking a "coon dog" price. Seems like a lot of folks think every dog is a coon dog and price them accordingly. Lol. I just shake my head and laugh. Real coon dogs are worth whatever they are priced at, it's amazing how many think a cull is valuable. Dave


I agree, people say well look at the amount of money can be won today in the hunts. Well only 2% of the dogs are at a level of skill and that a handler should have confidence in to put down $2000 for an entry fee. However 98% of sellers believe their dog can compete.

I have and always will be an eight week old puppy and train/raise myself. If it is junk at least I can blame myself or if and I do put the effort in, I can blame the dog and Iím not out thousands or took a cull off someoneís hands for thousands.

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i bought an English dog off of a guy for around $4000 that was clear useless. No mouth, stood at the base of the tree and wouldnt bark, chopped on the ground and was told he bawled,one lie after another....when i asked the guy about him he said he was cheap based on what some guys are getting for them. I learned a valuable lesson but to me an 800 dollar dog should be sold for 800, it shouldnt matter that old Florida guy gave 40,000 for a few.

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i bought an English dog off of a guy for around $4000 that was clear useless. No mouth, stood at the base of the tree and wouldnt bark, chopped on the ground and was told he bawled,one lie after another....when i asked the guy about him he said he was cheap based on what some guys are getting for them. I learned a valuable lesson but to me an 800 dollar dog should be sold for 800, it shouldnt matter that old Florida guy gave 40,000 for a few.


This is a prime example of folks thinking a plug is worth that much, simply based on what a real coon dog is worth. Less than 2 percent of all hounds make what I call a coon dog. Dave

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This is a prime example of folks thinking a plug is worth that much, simply based on what a real coon dog is worth. Less than 2 percent of all hounds make what I call a coon dog. Dave


Dave Iím starting a line of coondogs called the Letdown line. I changed the name of the dog Iím promoting to this. That way if they start to talk about how sorry he is they can always say that thatís probably why I named him this. When he starts acting stupid I just revert back to why I call him that. That way if you buy a Letdown pup you can be psychologically prepared to handle the Letdown. It donít matter how nice they are, a coondog will often Let you down. But you are correct a lot of people think they have a world class or elite hound that have a lot of holes they donít see and are certainly just going to be pot donater at the larger entry fee hunts.

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Stop complaining, get a rich man's dog. That's something I always wanted to do. I thought I had a better chance of training one myself than getting rich, so that's the route I took. Shoulda gone for rich.

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