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6)i) If dog is continuously silent on trail.

when could this rule actualy be inforced?
Sceniro 1
if on first drop if all dogs A B C D struck in but you only hear ABC trail for next 15 min all dogs tree A B C D is dog D Scratched?

Sceniro 2
turn loose all dogs gone for couple minutes nothing opened dog A falls treed struck and treed in same breath by handler scratched or not? if not how many times can he due this till maybe he is scratched?

Sceniro 3 Same situation as sceniro 1 however this is 3rd drop and same thing has happened every time?

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whit said the way he understands it is the dog only has to open on track one time per hunt.. so it all depends on how you call. them.

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Where is the one bark rule?
is per hunt mean per track or in two hr hunt?

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I have never seen this rule enforced, The dog i just finished to Grand is extremly tight on track. He will open some around water or in a cornfield race but 75% atleast when he opens its his locate and i can strike and tree him in the same breath. As long as the handler is honest and strikeing for 25 a tight mouth dog wont get ya in trouble. Pitching that dog for undeserved strike points is a different story.

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"Continuously" silent on trail.

This has to mean more than one tree.

Todd has posted that a dog could be scratched after 2 trees.

In the real world that prolly isn't going to happen...

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With the way people pitch there dogs it would be hard to enforce. I hate a silent dog. That's why I go to hear my dog and see a coon

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This rule is moot

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Originally posted by buzzardcreek
This rule is moot

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rules are rules and we wonder why hunt attendance keeps dropping 1 guy ask for a vote about a babbler or silent dog is out voted every time ! why come to a hunt to be cheated by dishonest 2 hour maniacs that pick and choose what rules they want to enforce !

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That's why everyone should strike for the same thing. Let the coon treeing capabilities tell who the winner is. That take the babblers and silent dogs outta the picture.

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
I have never seen this rule enforced, The dog i just finished to Grand is extremly tight on track. He will open some around water or in a cornfield race but 75% atleast when he opens its his locate and i can strike and tree him in the same breath. As long as the handler is honest and strikeing for 25 a tight mouth dog wont get ya in trouble. Pitching that dog for undeserved strike points is a different story.

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
That's why everyone should strike for the same thing. Let the coon treeing capabilities tell who the winner is. That take the babblers and silent dogs outta the picture.

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To scatch a dog for being still first he must have a very good locate, good enough that every one in the cast knows what he is doing. 2nd you must point out on the first drop that he did not open on the ground( once he makes it threw the 1st drop with no ? he is home free) then 4 drops later he must be winning the cast or no one give a sh#t if he is or is not. To tell you the truth if I can't beat a dog that is spotting me 75 points every drop i don't need to scratch him I need a new dog LOL

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Originally posted by Mark V.
To scatch a dog for being still first he must have a very good locate, good enough that every one in the cast knows what he is doing. 2nd you must point out on the first drop that he did not open on the ground( once he makes it threw the 1st drop with no ? he is home free) then 4 drops later he must be winning the cast or no one give a sh#t if he is or is not. To tell you the truth if I can't beat a dog that is spotting me 75 points every drop i don't need to scratch him I need a new dog LOL

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Just to clear up any confussion iv never tried scratching anyone for this but it was brought up in discussion i had as a rule that never is enforced personaly I like a dog to open but that isnt the point of asking. The topics we realy talked about was
Silent dogs
Trouble making
Spectators getting involved all scratchable but noone ever does it

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Dog only has to open on track once every 8 minutes if he does this he isn't silent.

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