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Not a disqualification, but not ideal.
Simply put, if you have two dogs of equal or close conformation/standard, but one has rear dew claws and one doesn't, the win is going to go to the one that doesn't have them.
You shouldn't have been disqualified for it, but as inexpensive as it is it would be easier to just have them removed.

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But what if they do DQ them. Then what????

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Lol, funny

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I reread this whole thread and I didn't see anything funny. And I've got a great sense of humor.

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Your responses. That's where I'm finding the humor!

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So you obviously think every registered dog should be a bench champion.

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No I do not think that at all. Especially if they have a Disqualifying trait. I actually feel a hound should compete in the field, complete a 2 hour hunt, finish with plus points to be able to show. I know that will start a discussion but remember it's jmo...

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Had the same deal happen to me. In fact there was a dog with a bad bite there also. But the dogs teeth did touch, I looked myself( I am also a BS judge). There were only 2 females at the show and the BSJ DQ'ed both of us. I showed the judge the breed standards where it was not a DQ for my BNT having rear dew claws. I the time I think it said "free of rear dew claws". She flipped out on me. I called UKC they told me to write a letter to them with all the info that they would put it on her record if they get 2 or 3 letters on the same judge they will review them and can pull there BS lic. They did in fact already have a letter for the very judge I had issues with.

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Had the same deal happen to me. In fact there was a dog with a bad bite there also. But the dogs teeth did touch, I looked myself( I am also a BS judge). There were only 2 females at the show and the BSJ DQ'ed both of us. I showed the judge the breed standards where it was not a DQ for my BNT having rear dew claws. I the time I think it said "free of rear dew claws". She flipped out on me. I called UKC they told me to write a letter to them with all the info that they would put it on her record if they get 2 or 3 letters on the same judge they will review them and can pull there BS lic. They did in fact already have a letter for the very judge I had issues with.

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Exactly what did "free of rear dewclaws" mean to you? Your dog shouldn't have had to be DQed because it shouldn't have been entered.

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But then again we have established have the dew claws is not a DQ offense but then there a people like yourself that make the rules up instead of knowing them.

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Well show me in the rules where it says Disqualified for having them. Show me? Oh that's right it don't say that. But it does say it for several other traits. So if it doesn't say it, you are just making the rules up as you go along.

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Well show me in the rules where it says Disqualified for having them. Show me? Oh that's right it don't say that. But it does say it for several other traits. So if it doesn't say it, you are just making the rules up as you go along.

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There are several reasons a hound is DQ'd having dewclaws is not one of them. Until it is written then its not. So what YOU are saying is if a hound does not meet the breed standards, judgment, or not they can not be shown. Ears, coat, height, eyes, tail, chest, back, hindquarters, feet? Unless you are picking just one thing. Which that's what it sounds like. I don't agree they should not have them, but until they do change it. Or UKC changes its stance they can't be DQ.

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So you would award a dog with dewclaws a win even though the rules say no dewclaws?

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If that was the only Non-disqualifying fault and were the overall best hound. If you wouldn't then you shouldn't be a judge.

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Showing a dog with dew claws is like taking the ugliest girl in school to the senior prom yea you could do it but why would you !!

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I agree they shouldn't have them, but until its a disqualification then its okay. A hound shouldn't have them. But some do and some bitches always throw pups that do. But just clip them off and move on. My thing is people just making rules as they go.

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UKC. Its friday. We need a answer here. Dont be afraid.

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So let me ask this, if a hound does not meet the breed standards, should you be able to hunt it?

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I am not going to put words in anybody's mouth been doing this a long time. Some people have really talented dogs they put in the night hunts usually they title really fast some maybe just ok dogs but either they just like them or that's all they can afford but they keep participating in the hunts and sooner or later Lady Luck smiles on them and they get their wins !! So as far as the bench some dogs just finish really quickly some just struggle to get they're wins but the important thing is not to discourage anybody from participating if somebody's dog has a major fault I just don't give them the win and later away from everybody I usually explain why because if you don't they might not even know why they are loosing when I get beat I just take it like a man and go to the next one sooner or later I will get my win !!

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UKC. Its friday. We need a answer here. Dont be afraid.

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I don't show dogs but found this thread interesting. I read it probably 3 times and I still don't know if dew claws are allowed or not. lol

I'll ask my bench show judge buddies.

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I don't show dogs but found this thread interesting. I read it probably 3 times and I still don't know if dew claws are allowed or not. lol

I'll ask my bench show judge buddies.

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I'll make it as simple as humanly possible for you Champ..... lol.

Yes, a Treeing Walker with dewclaws is allowed to be shown in a show.

However, know that the judge will likely consider it when making his or her selections.

That puts you out, right? lol.

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So in other words. It IS NOT a disqualifying fault.

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