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Drugs and mass shootings

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The list of mass shooters and the stark link to psychotropic drugs.
Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and one teacher and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.
Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. Ten dead, 12 wounded.
Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for six days.
Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire, killing two classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed standoff at his school.
Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded.
A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding ten others.
TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.
Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California
Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledgehammer, hatchet, butcher knife, and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported having been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially, it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said “…. the **** doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)
Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.
Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death, his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed nine students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax, and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.

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What is really crazy is how many school age children are on meds because the teachers claim they are "PROBLEM" students. And they all have ADHD.
They don't pay attention .Put them on meds.
It seems if they speak out of turn or are a little more active then other students they are put on meds to make them "NORMAL??

Remember when I went to school the same kids always got in trouble, sent to principles office for a paddling and a note sent home to parents.
The new norm is don't bring them back to school until they get some ritalin or some other drugs .
They do the same thing in nursing homes. Over medicate and then give more meds to counter the side effects of the first meds.
It does seem the medical profession and drug companies are a little over eager to prescribe meds for any and every thing.

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seems like we were warned about the drug problem in this country . no one seems to care. like all else. parents of this country is destroying our youth . and its not just the young parents eather . it all boils down to how the older generation raised there offspring. it started somewhere. so I guess you old people don't think your the problem do ya.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pat Bizich
What is really crazy is how many school age children are on meds because the teachers claim they are "PROBLEM" students. And they all have ADHD.
They don't pay attention .Put them on meds.
It seems if they speak out of turn or are a little more active then other students they are put on meds to make them "NORMAL??

Remember when I went to school the same kids always got in trouble, sent to principles office for a paddling and a note sent home to parents.
The new norm is don't bring them back to school until they get some ritalin or some other drugs .
They do the same thing in nursing homes. Over medicate and then give more meds to counter the side effects of the first meds.
It does seem the medical profession and drug companies are a little over eager to prescribe meds for any and every thing.


My oldest daughter works as a charge RN at a children's mental hospital. Her opinion a very small percentage of her patients were just born crazy the rest 90+% are products of their environment, abuse, neglect and medicated. Patients age from 4-18. Patients in these places are only their if they are a threat to themselves or others, imagine a suicidal 4 year old!
The side effects of most of these meds can be catastrophic if not closely monitored and the effects on the young is such that many are not recommended for children yet they are passed out like m&m's.

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What I've observed

(1) Some of our doctors are essentially licensed drug dealers.
(2) Some of these parents will actually use their kids to get drugs for themselves (to use or sell). I've seen it with pre-school aged children, where the child was better behaved than the parent. And, this is the type of environment these kids grow up in. That can't be good for any kid.
(3) There are a lot of situations where the worst part of a kids school day is the end of the day, because they have to go home (to a far worse environment). They are better off when they are in school.
(4) Let's not forget that the great majority of our kids that grow up in a stable, responsible and caring home environment turn out just fine. Same as it always has been, and always will be.

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Little bit of true story about how prescribed drugs alter perceptions of reality.
My brother was a Quad from an accident .He got the usual infections and nerve spasm related to his condition.
He was hospitalized one time for one of these problems.
While there ,the doctor prescribed a med he had never before used .
Within a day or so he began hallucinating that people were spying on him. Wanted to kill him. Get him out of there. I had to go into the adjoining room to verify no one was watching him from behind the picture in his room which he insisted he could see them watching and they were there but hiding. He was absolutely serious about these accusations but interacted and conversed normally .
My mom complained to the Dr that now wanted to prescribe anti hallucination drugs and get him a psychiatric evaluation.
She complained it was the meds .The Dr denied they were causing the problem.
Fortunately she had a PDR and confirmed that in fact the drug he was being given was known to cause hallucinations.
She now complained even louder and DEMANDED they stop using this particular med. Of course the Dr still said it was not the problem but ceased using it. My Mom could be quite persuasive .
In less than a day he was back to his normal self .He remembered the incidents but said they were so real .

Can any one reading this imagine what could had happened if he was able to walk and act on his perception that he was being spied on and these people wanted to kill him?

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X2 Pat. Several years ago Cheyenne's mom was hospitalized and they started her on something new. She is completely paralyzed on her left side from a stroke about 20 years ago she can stand with assistance to move from bed to chair ect. After given the med she thought was going to "help her nerves" was hallucinating and trying to jump out of the window to fly which in reality she was trying to push herself off of the bed over and again we were stopping her. Like your brother conversed normally otherwise and still remembers some voice telling her to jump.
Many antidepressants are as addictive as heroin and the body will need them after being prescribed as the natural receptors in the brain are affected. Patients can't just quit cold turkey or they can go into complete psychosis and can even die, it is a slow weaning process.

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Well if it ain't all ready wrong & confusin enough it will get worse when the boy today,girl tomorrow,& a whatever you feel like bein gender later on.

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I was a receptionist at 2 different mental health facilities, couldn't believe how many different meds were prescribed to kids.

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Not just kids, a few years ago we had several deaths in the family. Seemed like it just wouldn't stop. I got bad sick and was admitted to the hospital. The hits just kept coming. The gave me some meds for anxiety. I told them I was fine but they insisted I needed them. Within one week I felt just about dead inside. Didn't care about anyone or anything. Stopped the meds and I was fine. I realized then how some of these people can bug smooth out.

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My oldest daughter works as a charge RN at a children's mental hospital. Her opinion a very small percentage of her patients were just born crazy the rest 90+% are products of their environment, abuse, neglect and medicated. Patients age from 4-18. Patients in these places are only their if they are a threat to themselves or others, imagine a suicidal 4 year old!
The side effects of most of these meds can be catastrophic if not closely monitored and the effects on the young is such that many are not recommended for children yet they are passed out like m&m's.



might concider public schools

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Yes, definitely not just kids. My friend works for an agency that helps the elderly, she told me some people are on 10 and more different drugs. A guy a few miles from here was prescribed antidepressants after his wife had a stroke and wasn't doing well. He told her he can was going to commit suicide so she called a neighbor hoping he could talk him out of it. He couldn't, but not only that, the first shot wasn't successful so he ran to his garage and locked himself in it to finish.

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I have a first cousin who is a doctor/surgeon in Alabama and we talk a couple of times a month , now his perception of this is the same has ya'lls and my wife is an RN and she agrees , the FDA and Big Pharma coupled with greed from doctors , school systems , family courts and Pyscho-babblers etc. who pretend to be doctors have killed more Americans either directly or indirectly in the last 10-15 years than the Germans and Japs did during WW2 according to a medical journal my cousin writes for on occasion 400,000 something and counting. Way more than Pablo Escobar ,and Chapo Guzman combined. So inquiring minds would like to know who is the real criminal and murderer here and or who should be targeted under RICO ETC.. Think about this these ads on TV always at the end list the possible side effects which are way worse than what ya got imho but are and have been FDA approved. And on a side note most of these drugged out kids who are committing these crimes often have at least one if not both parents who are either , Psychologist , Physchiatrist , or some kind of financial business venture etc. What are the odds? And now you know why I always say the establishment is the disease masquerading has the cure. JMHO and S/FI!

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