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How deep should a hound have to go

Why in the world would anybody want a dog to go 2 or 4 miles or more to tree a coon!! I What are they doing to get that far? I've had bad nights dogs got deeper than usual but not no 3 or 4 miles! Are they hunting? Running junk out of the country or just running ghost from the time they get off the leash!

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Re: How deep should a hound have to go

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Why in the world would anybody want a dog to go 2 or 4 miles or more to tree a coon!! I What are they doing to get that far? I've had bad nights dogs got deeper than usual but not no 3 or 4 miles! Are they hunting? Running junk out of the country or just running ghost from the time they get off the leash!
absolutely not hunting !!

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Just happy to be dogs, and if you ain't got to feed it it shouldn't matter.

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Back in the day dog act a fool like that much they would have found a way for you to take those long lonley death marches by your self while everybody else hunted that's all I am gonna say about that lol !!

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I make walks by myself a lot to my dogs but it's a split tree close or maybe a few 100 yds difference. And sounds like rob might have a dog that likes to hunt the next state! 😆

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Who has dogs that go that far? Nobody I know of.

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I make walks by myself a lot to my dogs but it's a split tree close or maybe a few 100 yds difference. And sounds like rob might have a dog that likes to hunt the next state! 😆


No robs dog will go if he needs to but he don't pass up no coon. Granny is 10 yrs old and when coons are not moving she is to much dog for me old crazy heifer lol.

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I make walks by myself a lot to my dogs but it's a split tree close or maybe a few 100 yds difference. And sounds like rob might have a dog that likes to hunt the next state! 😆
cause u have hunted with me a lot right? I can't help it if my ol plug isn't as good as yours randy.

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Rob if you want me to brag on him much more your gonna have to pay me lmbo.

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Never said I did rob. U said it wasn't my business so sounded like u was one of them! Lol Don't get your panties in a wad. U post something like that u know ull get a response.

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Pay me and I'll brag on him!!

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we use to just say the dogs blew out on us years ago .when they blew out 9 out of 10 times they would all be took of the same tree . now when they blow out they will be alone . years ago the dogs didnt bark all thew the country when they made the way deep . now days they never shut up while getting gone . the dogs of today will have a coon when you get to them so some call them coon dogs . a show dog thats never saw a coon in its life also called a coon dog .lol my style of dog is one that takes the first track comes to trails it up and trees it . closer the better . with or without company not important to me as long as i see a ringtail . dont get me wrong sometimes i have to walk a mile or more but not each time i turn lose . that would take the fun out of hunting for me .i enjoy hearing a dog work a track out and finish it with a coon .

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Never said I did rob. U said it wasn't my business so sounded like u was one of them! Lol Don't get your panties in a wad. U post something like that u know ull get a response.
oh my panties are warm and ironed smooth, but it is definitely none of mine or your business what another man hunts. Andtar that dog ddoesn't care if anybody brags on him or not, all he cares is I feed him on time!

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Don't get me wrong guys !! I want a hard hunting young dog !! because I can and I will make him stay within range of me !!I absolutely want have a young dog hanging around me !! or having one blow out country young or old !I have went thru a bunch that lacked in one area or another!!!

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Re: How deep should a hound have to go

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Why in the world would anybody want a dog to go 2 or 4 miles or more to tree a coon!! I What are they doing to get that far? I've had bad nights dogs got deeper than usual but not no 3 or 4 miles! Are they hunting? Running junk out of the country or just running ghost from the time they get off the leash!


Years ago I wanted one without return but to many trips over a miles ol dog found new home. Around here one goes over 1000 yards often without getting struck and treed isn't looking for a coon no matter how much its won or what was paid for it or who is bragging on it!!!!

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No robs dog will go if he needs to but he don't pass up no coon. Granny is 10 yrs old and when coons are not moving she is to much dog for me old crazy heifer lol.
Yadkintar a poodle would be to much for you !! I know !! shut up smart a!!lol

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I hunt large sections of timber, and I often let cabin fever get the best of me in the middle of winter. I have been known to hunt in 2 feet of snow and below zero temperatures. It doesn't happen often, but if the snow is deep a dog may have to cover a bunch of ground to find a coon stirring. The old female I have here doesn't have a problem covering 2 miles to find a track if she has to. She would drive me nuts if it wasn't for my Alpha.

I will admit this only happens in the winter. Most of the year she will get struck and treed anywhere from 100 feet to 1000 yards.

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More coons now & less hunters than in the last 100 years. I can't figure why a dog would have to go a mile. Most places I hunt if they go over a mile often they'll be ran over before long.

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I've just seen where people saying dogs went 4 or 5 miles a few times on post on here and of course facebook! Lol A mile walk around here is rough in these mtns. My dogs got a gear but find a coon within a reasonable distance most times. Not enough hunting territory here. To many rds and houses

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Till it trees a coon!! 10 yrds or 10 miles I don't care just don't come back until u hear your name!!

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I've just seen where people saying dogs went 4 or 5 miles a few times on post on here and of course facebook! Lol
I hope all mine from here on out have enough sense to come back before they go a mile. Im fortunate to not have spots that take more than a a few hundred yards to get struck.

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Till it trees a coon!! 10 yrds or 10 miles I don't care just don't come back until u hear your name!!



After a man crawl on his hands and knees that far here a few times he would change his mind somtimes it takes the dogs 20 minutes to work a coon 800 yards and it will take 1 hr to get to them by time I get back to the truck I have to really think about cutting again we got lot lots of coons but man is it ruff lol.

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Maybe there is or maybe there isn't a misunderstanding of a dog hunting hard, blowing out of the country, straight line hunter, road runner. Whatever you want to call it.

If a dog hunts hard and can and will tree a coon right out of the truck, then tree one a few hundred yards and his hard hunting ability takes him a mile if the coon are not moving. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with that and that is what separated the winners from the losers many years ago

Like everything else the hard going of the winners are in our genetics today but they are not combined with treeing a coon. The hard going is combined with what I feel should be faults. Going a mile before starting to hunt for a coon, running roads, doing its best to get away from other dogs when there are coon in the area to tree.

Now I know there are areas with fields and wood lines and if hunt those you might favor a dog that works those edges. Nothing wrong with that. As long if they just are not running the edges to get a mile away.

If mine is deep I want him there for one reason. His hard hunting ability didn't find a coon close and he didn't get lonely and started looking for me. He kept looking for a coon.

This isn't rocket science. Hunt your dog and you will know if he is getting deep for a good reason or because it is a fault he has.

Prime example of what I am talking about. Go hunting and dogs tree several coon all around you. You and your buddies think you have found a great spot. All dogs treed, split treed and had coon several times during the hunt. All fairly close. Go same spot 2 days later. Turn same dogs out and nothing. GPS shows a couple dogs working around in the swamp. GPS shows one dog worked the swamp and then started ranging out. The dog ranging out finally found a coon 1.5 miles away and the other dogs are still in the swamp still going back and for and not barking but not producing either. I am not going to fault the dog 1.5 miles away. It is about how he got there on my GPS. It wasn't down the road, it wasn't a straight line. It was hunting. That is what I want as these are HUNTING DOGS.

Back in the late 60's and early 70's I had a hard hunting dog pop up from time to time. There was a problem back then. They usually culled themselves as they would get lost and there was no trackers to find them with. I walk hunted one vast area called the Everglades. 17 miles from one road to another. Turn out in the block of woods and try to keep up with a hard going hound. Our pack was just that. A pack that stayed together and treed coon together. The dog that we are looking for today showed up from time to time but didn't last long. It culled itself. I went back many a night to a place we had lost a dog earlier in the week, just to hunt in hopes he heard the dogs barking and would come to them. So with seeing many of a good one without a tracking collar never come back. I feel it is only my responsibility to go as far as it takes to get one today that is wearing a tracking collar. If it going too far because of a fault. Then it won't wear another collar of mine.

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I don't care how get the dog goes as long as it's not running over tracks to get away from dogs. I've had several dogs that would get treed close to 2 miles if they had to go that far to find 1. You won't see many dogs going a true 4 miles unless they're doing something wrong. I've been with some of the hardest hunting dogs there were and none of them were being found treed 4 or 5 miles away. I've seen some dogs go over a half mile or so before they started hunting. I had 1 like that once. He was a hot nosed dog and he would blow in until he found a red hot track. He was super accurate. When he got up around 3 years old he just started lwaving the country, alone or with dogs. He aleafy hunted a little too hard and fast but what ever went wrong he just started leaving the country every dtop a lot of times he'd never get treed and I'd find him 3 miles away. I think he would have been a thyroid candidate but we didn't know about all that back then.

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I don't care how get the dog goes as long as it's not running over tracks to get away from dogs. I've had several dogs that would get treed close to 2 miles if they had to go that far to find 1. You won't see many dogs going a true 4 miles unless they're doing something wrong. I've been with some of the hardest hunting dogs there were and none of them were being found treed 4 or 5 miles away. I've seen some dogs go over a half mile or so before they started hunting. I had 1 like that once. He was a hot nosed dog and he would blow in until he found a red hot track. He was super accurate. When he got up around 3 years old he just started lwaving the country, alone or with dogs. He aleafy hunted a little too hard and fast but what ever went wrong he just started leaving the country every dtop a lot of times he'd never get treed and I'd find him 3 miles away. I think he would have been a thyroid candidate but we didn't know about all that back then.

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