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wlewis323
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Terrible Twos

Anyone have any experience with dogs going through their terrible twos. What are some signs or things they do when going through this phase? How long does it last and should you hunt them through it or put them up?
Got 2 about 18 months old acting up now after I’ve shot a few coons down to them.

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It last till you work em through it . It wont get fixed in a pen . Just hunt em give guidance and enjoy . Thats the fun and excitement of a young hound , once their broke everything is kinda boring

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Backsliding at two or 3

Agree with PlottDawg, but If you have been hunting them real hard, a two week stay in the pen helps with some issues.

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Thanks PlottDawg for the help just trying to get some opinions from seasoned hunters before I mess them up. jdgher thanks I have been hunting them A lot here lately I’ve given them 3 nights off so far.


Anyways though what are some things you’ve seen your prospect do that made yourself say “their going through there terrible twos” I was hoping a few people will tell a few quick stories on how there hound was misbehaving for you to know they started this “terrible two” phase... I was hoping it doesn’t last a year or so lol

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My old female went through a spell when she got around 1.75-2 years old where she started running tracks backwards. Seemed like every tree she made there for a while was a den tree. I finally put 2 and 2 together and if i could tell the den was empty i would switch her lightly and send her back the way she came and more times than not she would hit the same track and run it the other way and have a coon at the end. About 3-4 times of that and she’s never looked back.

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I absolutely believe dogs go through terrible twos. The last two I've started did and came out of it. The dog I'm currently starting is going through this now. I hope he comes out of it.

In my opinion it is a confidence / independence thing. They develop so much confidence and independence in that time frame they make bad decisions. One more year of maturity and they are back to concentrating on those things we train for.

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yes she has been running tracks backwards and treeing in a den a lot. back and forth sometimes, treeing and leaving the tree. Getting hung on a track. Think she got on a deer now just a lot happening at one time seems like. When she was first starting out she was looking real nice and when she would settle down and tree she would have the meat. She would check a tree for a second and make a circle around it but she would come back she wouldn’t leave
Thanks for the replies hopefully I can get a few more stories out of y’all

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I have 1 that has been hunting deer instead of coon. It sure has put a damper on getting quality work done. Usually just a correction or 2 has been good enough on a few of the latest pups I trained but not this one. I have knocked him off plenty just in the past week.

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Pamjohnson I had one one time that started easier than any dog i ever seen she was out of dreamer. She would cut a flip when i shocked her at full force and she would just keep running it the collar wouldn’t make her stop. when you say you’ve knocked him off plenty this week what do you mean exactly?

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Correcting him using the collar. He does quit that track and go about hunting or return which ever he feels like doing mostly depending on his distance at the time of correction. I'm sure we'll get it figured out after awhile.

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Have you been correcting with the collar when you think he’s on a deer or you wait till you see it cross so you know he’s not on a coon? Sometimes she will run a coon track fast similar to how she sounds running a deer but it’s usually a few minutes before I know for sure if there on a deer or not

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My experience has been that the 3rd year is when you really begin to see solid consistency and when they seem to get their head screwed on straight regarding trash. Of course this assumes one has done their due diligence and broke the dog off trash.

Personally I can't stand a trashy hound but I know some folks that it really doesn't bother them much when their hound trashes. By the 3rd year I usually have those issues resolved. If I can't get them broke they don't stay with me.

It's a true joy going to the woods with a broke hound that is a solid performer. Those kind don't live long enough. Seems like they grow old quickly!

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This 1 just turned a year old about weeks ago. I have seen the deer on some occasions but not always. I prefer to see the offgame before I push the button but I am sure I have not shocked this one while running a coon yet.
I understand why some folks don't care if there dogs run offgame and that's fine with me. I personally don't care for that style of dog. My area has to much offgame and I don't enjoy wasting my time.

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I always heard turning them out on a deer you see in a field is the best way to go to break them because you know there on it then.

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Mine just turned two. I don’t like hunting male dogs but that’s all there was seems like training a female is easier. I am sure that between now and spring me and him will have a bunch of disagreements.


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I always heard turning them out on a deer you see in a field is the best way to go to break them because you know there on it then.
this is sound advice. If I do that I also prefer to keep hunting right threw not just throw them back in the truck.
Also you questioned the track's I have shocked my dog on. I don't go bye the speed of the track. It's not a good indacater for me. It's a combination of things learned over time. I still make mistakes but my gut feeling with experience is right more than wrong.

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