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it boils down to the money when you go ukc reg hunt no money goes home that night with the money off the table most hunts are a good time in the pkc guys show up for the money most leave without the money and have more excuses why they didn't win the money! i like both 1 hour hunts during the week can be fun without staying out all night imo

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Just in local club here in pro am in our cast we 2 silver champs a gold and champion.we treed atleast 7 coon and caught dogs once on the same tree. That's not the caliber of dogs I draw in r local ukc hunts, catch evrything on the same tree usually.

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that don't surprise me in your part of the woods. i bet all those hunts together didn't total 25 dogs and that is high. AKC 8 dogs, Ukc, 12 dogs, PKC, 5 dogs. That sounds bout right

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maybe high on ukc number lol miss the old days 3hour hunts 40 plus dogs almost any where you went by the end off 3 hours most knew who had the best dog plain and simple can,t really judge whos best in a hour thats where the luck thing comes in lol

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that don't surprise me in your part of the woods. i bet all those hunts together didn't total 25 dogs and that is high. AKC 8 dogs, Ukc, 12 dogs, PKC, 5 dogs. That sounds bout right

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If PKC has such crappy dogs all of whiners should take all of your coon treers to PKC and clean house! Fact of the mater is yall probabably dont have the dog power.. The reason more coons are seen in UKC is due to 2 different things, Hunting buckets or simply plussing coons that are not there.. As far as the slick handlers go, are yall talking about the ones that know the rules and wont let you slide like some of your back yard UKC hunters? Another fact if you know the rules it dont matter about other handlers! I can tell you one thing Ive seen better competition at our local $25 PKC hunts than at the UKC zones this year!

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If PKC has such crappy dogs all of whiners should take all of your coon treers to PKC and clean house! Fact of the mater is yall probabably dont have the dog power.. The reason more coons are seen in UKC is due to 2 different things, Hunting buckets or simply plussing coons that are not there.. As far as the slick handlers go, are yall talking about the ones that know the rules and wont let you slide like some of your back yard UKC hunters? Another fact if you know the rules it dont matter about other handlers! I can tell you one thing Ive seen better competition at our local $25 PKC hunts than at the UKC zones this year!

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You nailed it Mr Millwood !

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I was going to type the same thing Millwood!!!!!
You hit the nail on the head.
If winning PKC was as easy, these guy's would be cleaning house.

I enjoy hunting both registries but understand that hunting PKC, I have a smaller margin for error.

PKC seems to always be a little tougher to win at. You better have something that gets to itself and has the bacon looking down at you!!!!!!

Just my 2 cents though.

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PKC seems to always be a little tougher to win at. You better have something that gets to itself and has the bacon looking down at you!!!!!!

Just my 2 cents though.

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Theyre was 2 pages of complaining.Dont tell me one little post is gonna put an end to all that..

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What Dwils says is way more typical of PKC dogs. Very independent & usually undwer a coon.

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so why dont they change there rules to + to win like
the other 2 kcs

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Something to think about.. Why do those "PKC DOGS" always seem to be Granded out in UKC?

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Something else to think about. Try to sell a dog thats pkc registered and not ukc. You want get much interest. Wonder why?

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Something else to think about. Try to sell a dog thats pkc registered and not ukc. You want get much interest. Wonder why?

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like i said, most hunters have proven themselves and dogs on both sides of the fence. PKC does give mix breeds a place to hunt. And you see many of them win. I don't see why UKC don't do it. Heck you got guys crossing walkers and english ON PURPOSE and single registering them. And other breeds are crossing as well. Its all about the UKC pocket book and thats it. No offense just true. This post will get pulled im sure. I have had good fortune with UKC and its nothing personal. But the way the money is right now, its hard for me to pay to get a slip, when i have a chance to get some green backs.

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try selling a litter of walker pups that aren't SS

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I am a pleasure hunter but I do hunt at my local club both UKC and most of the time PKC if my work schedule allows me to.

First, I will say that I personally like the UKC hunts better. Maybe because I am more of a pleasure hunter but they just seem to suit me more. Or maybe it's because thats what I started hunting years ago and it's just what I like. I do like the fact that you have to have plus points to win.

Many of the same dogs hunt both, however, not all do. From my experience, PKC definitely draws better quality dogs. Like I said, I prefer UKC but I am not ignorant to the facts (or at least the facts in my part of the country).

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Once a dog is granded out in UKC. it becomes pretty much worthless to a Comp. hunter unless he goes to PKC. Wold be nice if UKC. offerd some incentive for the guys to break out the Grands. I think this is the main reason you see a little better quality dog at the PKC. hunts.

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We all know I like Pkc. It really don't matter though. I want hunt but 10 or so hunts a year. Now that being said. I've not saw a dog in any registry that's made me take notice. Ain't saw one in years! So I guess the real coondogs must be hiding somewhere??

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As a guy who did a lot of hunting in the mid/late 70's and early 80's and getting totally out until starting again this year, I believe there have been a lot of changes in some breeds, some for the better and some for the worse. I hunted walkers back then, the few walkers I've hunted with so far seem to have lost a lot of track. I'm sure that may be just be a few not saying all by any means, it just seems like some will blow by tracks to run the hottest track. The blue dogs we're hunting seem to have improved. I'm really impressed with a little english dog we picked up. Since we're just hide/pleasure hunters it doesn't matter with kc is the best, we just want a dog that will put a coon up a tree night after night. Lately I've seen more than a few that seem to have a hard time doing it.
One guys dog tree on a corner post last week, not a coon anywhere to be found.lol

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Ive hunted against 1 dog that impressed me in the last few years and it was John Livelys lil D dog. Hes fast and accurate and thats 2 good traits that you dont usually find in the same dog.

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i would have to agree with dwils, mr. millwood and company on pkc. those of you who don't hunt pkc are always the ones bad mouthing it. with all the different clubs around here pkc hunts have the bigger showings. you arent gonna win in pkc unless you got a loner who has the coon around here. and yes the majority of the time someone "wins" with minus points is cause the finalists have split instead of hunting it off, therefore one could have won his cast with minus. PKC is the place to be for a reason. time for learning rules is when you are pleasure hunting your hound, not during the hunt. to those of you who say the walkers have lost their tracking ability, come on, just cause a hound can get through the woods with his head up doesnt mean the track isnt cold. shows he has brains and can move a cold track like it is hot. gives the impression the track is hot but its not. those comments tell me the person saying it hasnt been around alot in the woods with good hounds. i also agree that having a litter SS is gonna sell those pups alot quicker. if a breeder is that confident to put that kind of money out on a whole new litter, bet he is confident he bred his coondog to a coondog.

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