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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Morrison TN
Originally posted by sleepy head
in to tree means. In most cases, come in to tree is very obvious. It absolutely does not mean that a dog must come in and tree before he must be caught. Once in a while, it does require the use of some judgement. The Judge needs to decide, did the dog come in to the tree in question or didnt he? The criteria for making this decision is no different than that where a dog quits a trail that is being worked and comes in to the cast. If you are looking for a measurable distance on what is considered at the tree and what isnt, you wont get one from me. My advice is, use good judgement and be consistent.
Dated March 2019 published by UKC. It doesn't get much clearer. Not hard. to understand, logical, fair, reasonable, basic common sense. RIP your discussion is with Allen, I'm done
And that is exactly what I said. The only judgement is did he come into the tree. That's the only judgement you can use and why he said "once in a while" it requires judgement. Most of the time it does not. One time would be in the situation I described above, handler 50 yards in the field shining a tree and the dog comes to him. The handler is shining the tree but at 50 yards away is he still "at" the tree. In my judgement no he isn't. That's the judgement part, not what to do with them when they come in. He even says he doesn't have to show treed.
Did he come in to the tree or not. If he did then nothing else matters he is to be caught and scored according to what the other dogs score is. That is all I have been saying. No other rule applies and the only "judgement" is whether or not the dog came in to the tree.
You can never, EVER apply the quitting the track rule to a dog that comes into a tree after the judge. It can't happen by rule.
Let's go huntin
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