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Guys, both of you need to stop bickering and making comments that seem to agitate the situation, rather than enlighten this board of facts of the case. Please do not let your egos cause this post to be deleted. If anyone is truely interested in seeing a resolution in this matter that does not smear or defame any of the ACTUAL parties involved, please stop the offhand comments as they merely distract from the real issue/s. Dave

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No sir he had 125 minus on Friday night from a bad call i made. Saturday night he ended up with 375 plus with the last tree Non hunting guide said we had no time left in hunt when judge said we did. Take the last coon away he ends up with 150 still gets thru the zones.

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Nah bud he struck for 25 treed for 125 left tree cause rough Dog then went on get treed again with Coon so he won cast with 25 plus. He want run a hog hunt him every night in them. The 3 northern dogs run the hog all night long. Unlike most people I will tell you the good and the bad about one. Is sam perfect heck no he is a dog he makes mistakes but doesn’t make many as some.

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Do either of you expect to accomplish anything positive with all this bickering? Why not let the end results do the talking. While I respect both of you to express your opinions, they are just that-opinions! Let the results do the talking. The old saying "the more you stir poop the more it stinks" certainly rings true in this case. Win with honor, lose with honor, there is always another hunt, but respect once lost is hard to regain. My best to those involved, I hope this issue is resolved in the best way possible. Dave

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Uhh ohh Dave didn't have but one good nerve left and y'all got on it !!

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Do either of you expect to accomplish anything positive with all this bickering? Why not let the end results do the talking. While I respect both of you to express your opinions, they are just that-opinions! Let the results do the talking. The old saying "the more you stir poop the more it stinks" certainly rings true in this case. Win with honor, lose with honor, there is always another hunt, but respect once lost is hard to regain. My best to those involved, I hope this issue is resolved in the best way possible. Dave

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You are correct as always ( seriously ) and I whole heartly agree with you. Let those who were there enlighten us if they desire and those who were not remain silent. Cedartree will serve his cause best by refusing comment on post made by those who were not present and based on hearsay. My advise to all is wait on the outcome to comment. Dave

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Jim both you and Dave were not there and y'all are commenting hee, hee , hee !!

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Not about what went on!!!! Tape ole Fred's paw up and get in the woods. Should he get after a deer,, you ought to be able to hobble him down, that is if you didn't load up on steak. LOL. Dave

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UKC has done the best that they could do given the situation that they were given. They investigated fully and got to the truth of what happened at the Zone hunt. Now they are deciding what course of action to take. If y'all would just settle down and trust them to do the right thing you might be very very surprised at what really went on.

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Richard since you know everything tell us what happened then cause I was there you wasn’t?

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I am waiting on UKC. So you were on Sambo's Sat night cast at the Zones?

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Yes sir I was handling him

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Cedar, Was there a problem that night or not? Or is this something that got started after the fact? I heard there was a coon added after the cast signed the card, did that happen? What is taking so long for UKC to make a ruling? You should know what is going on if you were there. Lets here what you think happened, I'm not sure If I get it......

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No sir wasn’t brought up until the next day or two. We had four minutes left in the hunt when I treed my dog which me and the judge clearly stated and the Non hunting guide said we had no time left that’s where it’s coming from we added a coon after the hunt. Then went on to win the world hunt after Ukc told me I was good to go to hunt on Friday night of world hunt I got to take all the prizes and trophies home and 2 month later I’m still dealing with this non sense.

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So just a simple yes or no did a backup handler pull sombody else's dog off of a tree at the end of the hunt and put it in the box at the zones ?

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We had four minutes left in the hunt when I treed my dog which me and the judge clearly stated and the Non hunting guide said we had no time left

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Tone it down guys, or they will delete another good topic...

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Richard since you know everything tell us what happened then cause I was there you wasn’t?

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I am waiting on UKC to sort it out. Apparantly everyone that was there has a different account of what went on. And from what I have heard, the accounts keep changing so UKC is having a hard time figuring it out. Maybe that is why there is so much discussion. I have been on a lot of casts where everyone in the cast has a different memory of what went on. And policemen and lawyers all say that eyewitness accounts and descriptions can be unreliable. So, as I have said several times, why don't we just let UKC figure it out and trust them to come up with what happened? Mr Gingerich is a very intelligent man and is of the upmost integrity. He will straighten this mess out.

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How is UKC going to sort it out when they going on hearsay? UKC was not there, the only guys involved was the two at the tree..

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jmo it doesn't matter what the guides or anyone on the cast stopwatch said the only time that matters is the judge give him the benefit of doubt he is doing his best!!

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Who was keeping the time, the judge or the back up guide? That is what happens when everyone in the cast has a stop watch and no one can keep time.. HeHeHeHeHeHe!!!!

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How is UKC going to sort it out when they going on hearsay? UKC was not there, the only guys involved was the two at the tree..

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By UKC you mean Allen Gingerich. Do you honestly think that he is going to make a decision of this magnitude based on hearsay?

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What is the idea of everyone having a clock? I have seen where a hunter would say I got the time on that dog, that is interfering with the cast, its not his job.... When someone else says the time run out, not his job, you have to go with what the judge said happened, not what one of the hunters said happened. This is what happens when you let the whole cast help judge.. JMI

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Who was keeping the time, the judge or the back up guide?

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