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It's bad that you can't take a persons word on the type of hound they have for sale, but now with all the thyroid and Ehrlichiosis I would now say before buying a hound take it to a vet have them run test for both... Thyroid and Ehrlichiosis..

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and hartworms.

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And go with them to make sure they take the dog you are buying not a different dog to an unsuspecting vet I learned that the hard way.

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This is about the way I see it...

I try to never buy a grown dog because it usually is someone's cull...

If buying a pup I want to see the whole litter...and possibly buy at least two pups...

But the preferred method is to raise my own litter of pups and test and select what I believe will be the best...this way I get to see how they act as well...

It is pretty sad that so many folks will try to pull a fast one on his fellow man...and yet they are probably the first to cast a stone on crooked dog trades and sales...

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This is about the way I see it...

I try to never buy a grown dog because it usually is someone's cull...

If buying a pup I want to see the whole litter...and possibly buy at least two pups...

But the preferred method is to raise my own litter of pups and test and select what I believe will be the best...this way I get to see how they act as well...

It is pretty sad that so many folks will try to pull a fast one on his fellow man...and yet they are probably the first to cast a stone on crooked dog trades and sales...

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Never trust a coon hunter they are generally as a rule scum, there are some real good people that coon hunt but they are few and far between.

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Honestly I think I do as much research on the man selling the dog as I do on the dog itself. I then judge if he's an honest man or not, if he's fooled people before etc etc.

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Honestly I think I do as much research on the man selling the dog as I do on the dog itself. I then judge if he's an honest man or not, if he's fooled people before etc etc.

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First thing I do is go back and look through the guys posts here, you can get a feeling how hard they blow on here or if they've posted questions or concerns about the very dog for sale prior to listing it. Then if I talk to the person on the phone I'll ask for some references, I don't care if a reference is the neighbour kid who tags along. Then I double check the sellers story. If I go as far as seeing the papers, I will call the owners of the site and dam and the person who weened the dog (if it's someone different). I'll ask for information on littermates and talk to those people etc.

I'll get a good idea if the seller is fairly accurate in his representation before I even lay eyes on the dog.

Just recently I saw a dog for sale and called the guy, he didn't have papers and wasn't going to give me the guys name or number he bought the dog from (I was going to see if I could get the papers) and then I asked for some references for people who've seen the dog hunt and he wouldn't give me any. So it was a pretty short conversation. I then proceeded to tell all my friends who it was and what happened.

A long time ago I went through the procedure and went up to trial a hound. Everything was sounding good. I loaded up the dog and the guys wife Was pulling in the lane said something like "I'm so glad that stupid dog is leaving, my husband can't stand his inconsistency". Lmao. For the price he wanted for the dog I unloaded it and put him back on the chain. I don't think the man realized what happened because he was in the back yard when his wife pulled in.

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Never trust a coon hunter they are generally as a rule scum...

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Oh my goodness... Then why do you coonhunt or hang out with such scum?

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Well I sure as heck don't hang with the redbone crowd, and like I said there are a few good ones just not many. Coonhunting world is full of dog jockeys.

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Only half of them lie the other half don't know the difference lol. I won't buy a dog from anybody that won't tell me what the dogs faults are.

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Only half of them lie the other half don't know the difference lol. I won't buy a dog from anybody that won't tell me what the dogs faults are.

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Oh my goodness... Then why do you coonhunt or hang out with such scum?

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These are not faults you can see until you get the dog home and start hunting him and the meds he was on start to wear off. I got $500 in vet bills now trying to fight off Ehrlichiosis

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I'm guessing you can't take the dog back?

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I've got a good story happened to my good friend

He bought a young female just under 2 and paid good money for her, more than I would have. Anyways the fellow (we will call dog jokey) had 2 females for sale, littermates, and he was thinking about both but just bought the one. We will call them female A and female B.

So my friends got female A running real well and was happy and had told the previous owner. Dog jokey told him that the female, female B, was also doing great. My friend asked if dog jokey would sell her still. My friend was told "no" "this is a one in a lifetime female B" etc.

Then my friend had had female A get out when she was in heat and worried that she got bred by a boxer mut down the road. So he had her spayed right away.

A few months later the dog jokey calls my friend and says "I'd like to breed a male to female A, I want to buy her back". My friend then tells him female A is spayed. Dog jokey then goes on about how great female B is and how happy he is and what a wonder dog blah blah blah and how he thinks she is better than female A. Myself and my friend were wonder why the hell doesn't he breed female B if she's so good.

Another couple months go by and my friend gets a phone call that Female B is for sale. But about 3 times the price now that my friend paid for female A.

I told him to do some digging on the dog and find out from some other people what female B was doing.

Turns out female B was nowhere near the talent of female A, and the dog jokey was really trying to unload her for any money he could. So he was playing my friend. Trying to get him to pay triple for garbage.

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I love the ones that put a dog on here for sale then get mad when you ask them questions about them and immediately call you a tirekicker that's when I tell them to just keep their junk and hang up. If you don't want to describe the dog then don't advertise them.

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Well I hate selling a dog, and trying to describe it. Would much rather take you hunting and then you can make up your mind if you think it will suit you.

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I atleast need a description before I drive several hours to see him go If you are honest your description and his actions in the woods should match up.

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I've sold a few dogs in the last few years I also train dogs for the public not to mention run the hunts that I feel I'm ready for. With that being said I don't think theirs nothing I ain't heard nor seen personally. Not only the sport but the world as a whole is in an awful state. So much alot start beleive​in their own lies.
The #1 question is can u handle the truth? Believe it or not but alot of folks want it until they get it. I've knocked myself from $,$$$'s of dollars just because I had to tell the truth. Sometimes I'm not real good at discribeing a dog I have one about any man on the planet would love to have and if u call asking about him u wouldn't give me $20 for him. Their all dogs and BELIEVE IT they all do dumb stuff no dog is perfect and no man is perfect. The way I see it if I call a man and he sets and talks about how good this dog is for 20 mins he's a lier!! I can't come up with 3 solid mins of good stuff to say about every dog I've ever owned, but I'll talk your head off about how they should do this but instead they do that, it's much easier for me to tell the bad than it is the good!! But when u do that the guy calling doesn't put his boots on to even come look. Sold a female I had on here a few weeks ago and that fellor put his boots on and told me he had bought several dogs off here in the past but never has met a fellor queit like myself. I tell it like it is %100 weather I'm saleing or hunting your dog. I'll tell u before u get here don't expect me to kiss your hind end cause it ain't happening.
But buyer beware!!! Theirs alot of them out there that will tell u anything u want to hear to get them bill of sales in your hands then it seems their numbers change and they lose all contacts to the hound community and next thing u know they on here with different names. To each his own. But ALWAYS I REAPEAT ALWAYS go look at the dog u are buying weather it's from me or your brother.

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I've sold a few dogs in the last few years I also train dogs for the public not to mention run the hunts that I feel I'm ready for. With that being said I don't think theirs nothing I ain't heard nor seen personally. Not only the sport but the world as a whole is in an awful state. So much alot start beleive​in their own lies.
The #1 question is can u handle the truth? Believe it or not but alot of folks want it until they get it. I've knocked myself from $,$$$'s of dollars just because I had to tell the truth. Sometimes I'm not real good at discribeing a dog I have one about any man on the planet would love to have and if u call asking about him u wouldn't give me $20 for him. Their all dogs and BELIEVE IT they all do dumb stuff no dog is perfect and no man is perfect. The way I see it if I call a man and he sets and talks about how good this dog is for 20 mins he's a lier!! I can't come up with 3 solid mins of good stuff to say about every dog I've ever owned, but I'll talk your head off about how they should do this but instead they do that, it's much easier for me to tell the bad than it is the good!! But when u do that the guy calling doesn't put his boots on to even come look. Sold a female I had on here a few weeks ago and that fellor put his boots on and told me he had bought several dogs off here in the past but never has met a fellor queit like myself. I tell it like it is %100 weather I'm saleing or hunting your dog. I'll tell u before u get here don't expect me to kiss your hind end cause it ain't happening.
But buyer beware!!! Theirs alot of them out there that will tell u anything u want to hear to get them bill of sales in your hands then it seems their numbers change and they lose all contacts to the hound community and next thing u know they on here with different names. To each his own. But ALWAYS I REAPEAT ALWAYS go look at the dog u are buying weather it's from me or your brother.

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I too buying or selling. will tell like it is. I have found that if they instantly tell how Christ like they are, HANG UP.

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