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rdmedders
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range out

ive got a 2.5 year old female thats been treeing since she was one year old , i only hunt her by herself. Got a great mouth, doesn't bump trash, goes hunting! the negative side is she doesn't hunt out far , if she doesn't get on a track within 150-450 yards she'll come back to truck! with age would u think she'll start getting deeper?
she's a real timid dog so shes not going to take any harsh treatment.

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Hunt her with other dogs. 2.5 years old what's the hold up.

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From what Iíve observed in the last 43 years of owning hunting hounds is the majority of the ďhuntĒ a hound has is all decided at fertilization. The majority of your attempts to try to make a hound hunt deeper/wider will not work in the end. Desire and hunt are genetically inherited from what Iíve experienced in both coon hounds and beagles. I suspect it holds true in any of the dogs used to pursue game, furred or feathered.

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Getting a dog to "range" out takes patience.

I take 2-4 dogs, hunt 1or 2 at a time .
The dog I want to "range" out, I'll put a little want to in them by lineing them up w/the other dog(s), as if I'm going to let it go, but I don't cut it loose.
Once the dog(s) r out of sight I'll take that dog and put it back in the box.
I average 4 drops a nite, so it'll get put back in the box 4 times for 2-4 nites.

That's the extent of it's training xposure for awhile.

On the last nite of this training, on the last drop of the nite and at a woods u know that a dog has to range out I'll drop it. If it comes back put it in the box .
Go home or drop ur other dogs if u got sum.
Like I said it takes patience, & no need for a heavy hand .

Done with consistency u will soon have a dog u wished didn't go that far....

Or if u don't wanna do that.....then try this, every time the dog comes back, that dog is DONE for the nite.

P.S......If your walk hunting this dog u need to stop that.


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My soluition

I 100% agree, the desire to hunt/range out is determined at breeding time.

A much better solution would be to sell her to me! I don't want one to range over 400 yards here. It's not needed. If they can't strike a track here in 400 yards, come back and we will go somewhere else!

NOT everyone likes deep and lonely. If i want to walk a mile, I own a tread mill.

Seriously, if you want to sell her, PM me.

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Larry Hall
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I'm in Hoosier's camp.. I'd love one that would hunt out 400-500 yards and come back!!

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Cory Highfill
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I would absolutely agree that the vast majority of a dog's hunt is genetic. But I will say I've had a little luck with putting dogs in situations where they have to go hunting, then waiting them out. Some folks encourage them to go hunting by walking them whenever they come back, and that just reinforces the habit. In those instances, a hound that would ordinarily go hunting gets conditioned to hunt with a person, not from a person. Those can often be "fixed" by parking in an area where a dog has to go hunting, then waiting them out until they do. It gets frustrating, but eventually they get bored and go on. After awhile, you can increase the distance they have to go and continue the process.
Long story short, conditioning/training errors are often fixable if you're patient. Genetics usually aren't. Knowing the difference makes all the difference.

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rdmedders
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Re: My soluition

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier
I 100% agree, the desire to hunt/range out is determined at breeding time.

A much better solution would be to sell her to me! I don't want one to range over 400 yards here. It's not needed. If they can't strike a track here in 400 yards, come back and we will go somewhere else!

NOT everyone likes deep and lonely. If i want to walk a mile, I own a tread mill.

Seriously, if you want to sell her, PM me.


im going to keep right now! ive got a 9.5 year old that goes as deep as he needs too, 2-3 drops a night is all you can do with him! my young female, u can make alot more drops.

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btt

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Pollard_247
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Iíll 2nd this method

quote:
Originally posted by Dogwhisper
Getting a dog to "range" out takes patience.

I take 2-4 dogs, hunt 1or 2 at a time .
The dog I want to "range" out, I'll put a little want to in them by lineing them up w/the other dog(s), as if I'm going to let it go, but I don't cut it loose.
Once the dog(s) r out of sight I'll take that dog and put it back in the box.
I average 4 drops a nite, so it'll get put back in the box 4 times for 2-4 nites.

That's the extent of it's training xposure for awhile.

On the last nite of this training, on the last drop of the nite and at a woods u know that a dog has to range out I'll drop it. If it comes back put it in the box .
Go home or drop ur other dogs if u got sum.
Like I said it takes patience, & no need for a heavy hand .

Done with consistency u will soon have a dog u wished didn't go that far....

Or if u don't wanna do that.....then try this, every time the dog comes back, that dog is DONE for the nite.

P.S......If your walk hunting this dog u need to stop that.


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Dan&Ann
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450 Yards

I just had a Track man bred female die at 9 years old. She was a 400 to 500 yard circle back hunter and if she came back we moved on to another spot. With company she would hunt a little deeper but man she was a nice hound. But she was what suited me. I own a red tick male now that kicks dirt and goes yonder and gets treed and is probably too much dog for me and my 51 year old legs and where I hunt. If she is that old I seriously doubt she will ever change into a deep hunter. Sounds like she would be a great puppy trainer! Good luck with her!

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Drop her in the middle of decent hunting. Go back and sit in your truck. Read a book or watch a movie on Netflix. See what she does after being ignored for an hour.

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