Registered: Jun 2014
Location: Louisiana
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What about dogs treeing" lay up" coons where there is no scent on the trunk of the tree? Could a little wind drift cause a dog to miss by a few feet. He's got no way to know where the coon climbed. But he sure found a coon the others couldn't find.

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Registered: Aug 2014
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Isn't this to be determined by the judge before shine time, not after you find the coon? Also UKC rules do NOT determine the best hound. Rules are rules period, if the coon crosses or jumps just as you get there, well too bad. Its just a game.

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Registered: Oct 2013
Location: Maryland
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Originally posted by Ed zachary
Isn't this to be determined by the judge before shine time, not after you find the coon? Also UKC rules do NOT determine the best hound. Rules are rules period, if the coon crosses or jumps just as you get there, well too bad. Its just a game.

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Originally posted by msinc
I have seen a lot of things happen in a hunt but plus points on a coon before you find it???? I have yet to see the coon plused before it was found. Maybe I read this wrong.

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Registered: Dec 2012
Location: tennessee
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There is no rule in the book about this.

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Registered: Oct 2014
Location: East Texas
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So, the dog strikes runs and trees and there's a coon in the tree next to it that is inches apart....the dog slick treed but there just happened to be a coon in that very close tree...I don't think so!!!!

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Registered: Dec 2012
Location: tennessee
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Guess you have never seen one jump or cross out?

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Registered: Oct 2014
Location: East Texas
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That's what I'm saying! !!! That coon didn't just happen to be there....

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Registered: Nov 2013
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i have had it happen a few times myself. i dont think he climbed or jumped, i just assume my dog missed. He was close but just didnt finish perfect. If my dog aint parked under the coon.. he missed. maybe thats because im hard on him, but thats just they way i am and i was raised.

If you read this, go back and read msinc's post again.

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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
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Originally posted by john Duemmer
All trees are scored with a cast vote, if the majority feel that the coon could have crossed the tree would be plussed, if the vote goes the other way the tree would be minused.
In the real world it probably depends how many dogs are on that tree. lol.

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Registered: Oct 2014
Location: East Texas
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I will have to agree with John and Allen....

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Registered: Jul 2003
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How far is ok to plus a coon? I do believe that coon sometimes cross out. I've seen it happen. I also believe that its a bad break if the coon is beside the tree your treeing on. It could of crossed out but probably didn't. I would vote minus. My buddy has a dog right now that will miss 30% of his coon and it will be in the tree beside where he's treeing. Winding it I guess. Here's what happened to me
In a big hunt (different registry). judges dog trees on a small tree going up to a big tree. No coon in big tree. Its summer time and basically all trees are touching each other. A coon is seen 6 trees away and 35 big steps from original tree. Tree is plussed and I questioned it. I put up my money and the panel ruled that the trees touched plus it. Probably helped that the guy used to sit on the board of the registry.

Take your minus. Nobody wants to, but if the coon aint in your tree and the trees aren't grown together, chalk it up to a bad break.

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Registered: Nov 2013
Location: Convoy,Ohio
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Originally posted by GA DAWG
A foot away is a good piece. Id more than likely minus it. Specially if coon is just laying up there.

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Registered: May 2004
Location: Sullivan IL.
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I don't think the rule says it has to touch, it says a obveuse(spelling) cross!

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