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rough country
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Hey UKC at SETWD

There is a young lady on Facebook talking about all the hounds in poor shape with no shelter on the grounds someone may want to look around the internet is what is killing ous houndsmen

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If its anything like Grand American, its up to the host club or the SETW ppl to control that. I've seen DNR make ppl leave from the fair grounds at GA because they had sick or poor dogs. I my opinion its not the kid on Facebook saying what she sees killing our sport. Its the ppl who don't take care of their dogs and then drag them out in public to sell what's left of them.

If your going to call yourselves houndsmen you should be man enough (or women enough) to respect the dogs and ppl who you parade them in front of.

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I agree with you 100% but 2 rough looking hounds out of 500 could make the whole bunch look bad

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well said Cleo!!!!

Way to go!

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Just left. Saw a truck with 'If You Cant Feed em, Dont Breed em'. If only everybody would follow that. I saw a cpl skinny dogs, but nothing to be worried about. Most of the dogs were either well fed or in decent hunting shape.

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quote:
Originally posted by rough country
I agree with you 100% but 2 rough looking hounds out of 500 could make the whole bunch look bad


Very true.
I'm glad all went pretty well. I sure hated to miss it.

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Re: well said Cleo!!!!

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Originally posted by Connie
Way to go!


I used to not speak my mind about this in fear of being bashed on this site by some of these ppl who wake up trying to see what pot of crap they can stir up but I really couldn't care less any more.

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......

Much of that is perception. An overweight dog is no more healthy than an overweight adult.

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Yeah, it was pretty ruff this year down in the bottom ! Seeing is believing !! Some put an efford in making a good spot for their dogs and others really didn't !

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Yeah, it was pretty ruff this year down in the bottom ! Seeing is believing !! Some put an efford in making a good spot for their dogs and others really didn't !


I can believe that.

Here is the thing, I have a male dog who, if you saw him just standing there, some of these nosey animal people who know nothing about hounds would "think" my dog was malnourished.
Here are the facts...... I feed my dog Diamond Naturals and he does best on the chicken and rice after I tried many different feeds including extreme athlete. I go down there every day and he generally has feed still from the previous day's feeding. He was at the vet a month ago for teeth cleaning and to have a place removed from his back.
I spoke with the vet about his weight and the vet stated you really do not want to see ribs or those two butt bones sticking up in the back and I totally agreed with that assessment. She suggested mixing in some high quality puppy food with the normal food and that was something I had not tried. A month later and not having been hunted for a month, he has gained a whole 2 ounces.
This dog is completely healthy, worm free (we checked), and hunts harder and longer, and with such energy as that I have never seen in any hound I have ever owned.
I have resigned to myself that until this dog gets older and/or slows down some, he is just not going to be a dog that carries any fat.
The vet seems to think he could use about 5 more pounds and that is probably true but I do not know how to get there after trying everything I know try and including what the vet has suggested.

That vet suggested it is better for him as he is rather than presenting to her at 10 pounds overweight.

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Just left. Saw a truck with 'If You Cant Feed em, Dont Breed em'. If only everybody would follow that. I saw a cpl skinny dogs, but nothing to be worried about. Most of the dogs were either well fed or in decent hunting shape.
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I can believe that.

Here is the thing, I have a male dog who, if you saw him just standing there, some of these nosey animal people who know nothing about hounds would "think" my dog was malnourished.
Here are the facts...... I feed my dog Diamond Naturals and he does best on the chicken and rice after I tried many different feeds including extreme athlete. I go down there every day and he generally has feed still from the previous day's feeding. He was at the vet a month ago for teeth cleaning and to have a place removed from his back.
I spoke with the vet about his weight and the vet stated you really do not want to see ribs or those two butt bones sticking up in the back and I totally agreed with that assessment. She suggested mixing in some high quality puppy food with the normal food and that was something I had not tried. A month later and not having been hunted for a month, he has gained a whole 2 ounces.
This dog is completely healthy, worm free (we checked), and hunts harder and longer, and with such energy as that I have never seen in any hound I have ever owned.
I have resigned to myself that until this dog gets older and/or slows down some, he is just not going to be a dog that carries any fat.
The vet seems to think he could use about 5 more pounds and that is probably true but I do not know how to get there after trying everything I know try and including what the vet has suggested.

That vet suggested it is better for him as he is rather than presenting to her at 10 pounds overweight.



Maybe you can try some satin balls??

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Re: Hey UKC at SETWD

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There is a young lady on Facebook talking about all the hounds in poor shape with no shelter on the grounds someone may want to look around the internet is what is killing ous houndsmen
I attended SETWD and I would have to agree some of those dogs staked down were in rough shape. I saw some beagles that looked like they had one foot in the grave.
I don't have any idea why they would let those people bring dogs like that in there. It sure doesn't help our sport with the animal people. Just saying

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THERE WERE PROUBALLY MORE DOGS FOR SALE THAN THERE WERE HUNTED , 202 FRIDAY AND 175 +OR - SATURDAY

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Yeah, I don't like to down anyone's dogs. But when you have 15 dogs tied there at the back of a truck laying in mud on a 3 ft chain, it doesn't do anything good for our sport. And another thing is people go down in the bottom and buy a dog they don't know if they are sick or have a disease or something and lead it right down in the stud barn.Where houndsmen have their big money dogs and litters of pups to pick up who knows what !

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Yeah, I don't like to down anyone's dogs. But when you have 15 dogs tied there at the back of a truck laying in mud on a 3 ft chain, it doesn't do anything good for our sport. And another thing is people go down in the bottom and buy a dog they don't know if they are sick or have a disease or something and lead it right down in the stud barn.Where houndsmen have their big money dogs and litters of pups to pick up who knows what !


That is exactly right....... I told the guy I was walking around with in that stud barn there is absolutely no way under the sun I would ever have my dog tied out in that barn. What is the point of that anyway?

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There is one way to stop this mess, charge the owner's of the dogs a $50.00 per dog fee to have them there I think it would weed them out. Our don't let them set up there. I seen the dogs lying in the mud and cold in the wee hours of morning was a sad site. Trade dogs or good dogs no dog should be treated like that.

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I think it's nice to have the stud dogs set up in the barns. And i know these breeders spend alotta money and time promoting this dogs. I think they should tightin up on the dog traders that attend these events and NO other dogs should be in the stud barn if you don't have a rented space in there promoting your dogs !!

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