Hoosier Outlaw
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Registered: Jun 2010
Location: Marion, Indiana
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quote: Originally posted by Richard Lambert
You are much more experienced than I am so I figured you would understand. When you breed in more or quicker tree, you lose accuracy. When you breed in more accuracy you lose quick tree. Or when you breed in track you lose tree or when you breed in tree you lose track. When you breed in drive you lose brains and sense. Or when you breed in drive you lose pleasure and handle. When you breed in more track mouth or strike you get a babbler or loose mouth. Does that explain it better?
But apparantly you have figured a way to breed in one trait without loseing another.
It's hard to win a lot in competition...across the country in different types of hunting year round with a dog that doesn't have drive, accuracy, and that is a quick tree dog.
Every year there are a hand full of examples in this breed that prove that....so how is it possible that they have these important and utterly necessary traits and abilities if you can't have them all in the same dog?
I always hunt a quick tree dog...and I won't hunt one that isn't accurate so I disagree that you can't have both.
It's easy to generalize those things...but it has not been true in most of the dogs I have bred, trained, and then won with over the years. If I'm not getting over 70% first trees...with real live coons in them in competition hunts...that dog won't stay at my place long or be used in my breeding program. Same goes for some of the other traits I deem essential for any competition dog to have.
The dogs who win alot....in bigger hunts with real levels of competition in different states and not just in their own back yard and at Redbone hunts have most of what competition hunters require in a dog...thats just a fact. They would not win consistently for long periods of time if they lacked very much in any important trait like drive, accuracy or being a quick locator. Most will be above average strike dogs as well. They may not all have the same levels in each area...but you can't win much outside your back yard if they lack badly in these traits. If you think so...then you probably don't get out much and compete at the higher levels of competition across the country. There are examples out there of these types of dogs....but very few examples of breeders who are breeding specifically for most of these key traits....and showing real results year after year by producing consistent winners.
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Hoosier Outlaw / Moonlight Redbones
1994 American Redbone Coonhound Association Hunter of the Year
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Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Billy the Kid
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