Registered: Aug 2006
Location: milan,mi
Posts: 1378

In my opinion some of the tests are worthless. My 54 yo wife has a myleoproliverative disorder. Mimics leukemia or blood cancer. Been well controlled going on ten years. When I took to the her they ran a snap test negative, another test negative. Admitted, quarantined, cdc got involved nasal swab negative. Throat swab negative, wanted to do a lung tissue sample I told them no more, blood test finally positive. She had it. 103 temp, lost her taste, 82% saturation level with 80 % of both lungs on scan showing broken glass opacity. Six months later she is in all reality disabled with no good outcome as of now. I've tested negative every month so take this for what it is worth.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2015
Location: church hill tn
Posts: 5632

My hunting partner age 82 nearly 83 Jan 2021 has Covid and he says this is the worst sickness he has ever had. Said the pain in his joints is at times unbearable. I sure hope that I do not get this stuff, he has been really sick for over a week now, but seems to be doing a little better every day, has not had a fevor now in the last 3 days. Covid seems to really attack older folks with weaker immune systems, I sure hope they get a vaccine that's effective asap. Dave

__________________
Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Eastern IA
Posts: 239

Wife is getting the new vaccine next week hopefully that means it will be available to everyone real soon

__________________
Jason Brown

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 257

https://summit.news/2020/12/08/cnn-...ng-the-vaccine/

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
Posts: 22462

Oh my goodness, what a sensationalist headline. That is typical CNN.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2013
Location: Seneca, Mo
Posts: 5823

quote:

---

Originally posted by rick brocious
https://summit.news/2020/12/08/cnn-...ng-the-vaccine/

---

__________________
Cheyenne & Jennifer Cummings
Seneca , MO
(417)317-4815
"TEAM MAFIA"
*NATIONAL GRNITECH GRCH GRNITECH(5) HALL OF FAME PKC PLATIUM CH REDNECK BACKWOODS SHACK
2014 OK STATE CH, 2015 MO PKC LEADER, 2016 PKC NATIONALS SEMIFINALIST, 2016 UKC TOP 20, 2O17 UKC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 3RD PLACE, 2018 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4, 2018 MO PKC STATE CHAMPION, 2019 AUTUMN OAKS NATIONAL GRNITE CH, 2019 PKC WORLD CH SEMIFINALIST. 2021 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4.
*PKC WORLD CHAMPION PLATNIUM CHAMPION GRNITECH SHACK'S HEATHER ISLAND SOUTHERN STOGIE
2021 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2022 PKC WORLD CHAMPION, 2022 MO PKC STATE LEADER PRO SPORT TRUCK WINNER

RIP
*GRNITECH PKC SCH REDNECK MAFIA PKC HALL OF FAME REPRODUCER INDUCTED 2022
*GRNITECH CH PKC SILVER CH REDNECK SHACK ATTACK aka TAC 2018 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2020 MO PKC STATE LEADER

Last edited by Redneck Mafia on 12-10-2020 at 07:32 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
Posts: 22462

Oh my goodness Jen, where do you come up with this stuff? Have you been talking to Chuck again?
Have you been sampling your own brownies?

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2014
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 3369

quote:

---

Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness Jen, where do you come up with this stuff? Have you been talking to Chuck again?
Have you been sampling your own brownies?

---

__________________
Donald Bergeron

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
Posts: 22462

She must be getting her info from the dark web. Come toward the light, Jen....

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2013
Location: Seneca, Mo
Posts: 5823

quote:

---

Originally posted by Richard Lambert
She must be getting her info from the dark web. Come toward the light, Jen....

---

__________________
Cheyenne & Jennifer Cummings
Seneca , MO
(417)317-4815
"TEAM MAFIA"
*NATIONAL GRNITECH GRCH GRNITECH(5) HALL OF FAME PKC PLATIUM CH REDNECK BACKWOODS SHACK
2014 OK STATE CH, 2015 MO PKC LEADER, 2016 PKC NATIONALS SEMIFINALIST, 2016 UKC TOP 20, 2O17 UKC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 3RD PLACE, 2018 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4, 2018 MO PKC STATE CHAMPION, 2019 AUTUMN OAKS NATIONAL GRNITE CH, 2019 PKC WORLD CH SEMIFINALIST. 2021 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4.
*PKC WORLD CHAMPION PLATNIUM CHAMPION GRNITECH SHACK'S HEATHER ISLAND SOUTHERN STOGIE
2021 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2022 PKC WORLD CHAMPION, 2022 MO PKC STATE LEADER PRO SPORT TRUCK WINNER

RIP
*GRNITECH PKC SCH REDNECK MAFIA PKC HALL OF FAME REPRODUCER INDUCTED 2022
*GRNITECH CH PKC SILVER CH REDNECK SHACK ATTACK aka TAC 2018 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2020 MO PKC STATE LEADER

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
Posts: 22462

What is Healthline? Didn't the FDA just okay the vaccine after going over every bit of the info? Pages and pages and pages. Their scientists know a whole lot more than you or I do. They are also ultra consevative. Their word is good enough for me. You are trying to read something into findings that you apparantly don't understand. Some people have highly allergic systems. They have to carry an epi pen around with them. That is what the UK is talking about.
It takes too long and too much money to separate out different classes of people such as pregnant, elderly or children when you do a study or trial. Can you just imagine how many pregnant woman, elderly or children would show up for a trial? That doesn't mean that it isn't safe for them. It just means they weren't studied.
Surely as intelligent as you are, you know all of this. I really shouldn't have to explain it. But if you are pregnant or a child or have severe allergies then don't get the shot. They won't give it to you anyway. Just hope that enough brave Americans show up to take the shot and achieve herd immunity to save you.

Last edited by Richard Lambert on 12-10-2020 at 11:47 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2013
Location: Seneca, Mo
Posts: 5823

quote:

---

Originally posted by Richard Lambert
What is Healthline? Didn't the FDA just okay the vaccine after going over every bit of the info? Pages and pages and pages. Their scientists know a whole lot more than you or I do. They are also ultra consevative. Their word is good enough for me. You are trying to read something into findings that you apparantly don't understand. Some people have highly allergic systems. They have to carry an epi pen around with them. That is what the UK is talking about.
It takes too long and too much money to separate out different classes of people such as pregnant, elderly or children when you do a study or trial. Can you just imagine how many pregnant woman, elderly or children would show up for a trial? That doesn't mean that it isn't safe for them. It just means they weren't studied.
Surely as intelligent as you are, you know all of this. I really shouldn't have to explain it. But if you are pregnant or a child or have severe allergies then don't get the shot. They won't give it to you anyway. Just hope that enough brave Americans show up to take the shot and achieve herd immunity to save you.

---

__________________
Cheyenne & Jennifer Cummings
Seneca , MO
(417)317-4815
"TEAM MAFIA"
*NATIONAL GRNITECH GRCH GRNITECH(5) HALL OF FAME PKC PLATIUM CH REDNECK BACKWOODS SHACK
2014 OK STATE CH, 2015 MO PKC LEADER, 2016 PKC NATIONALS SEMIFINALIST, 2016 UKC TOP 20, 2O17 UKC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 3RD PLACE, 2018 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4, 2018 MO PKC STATE CHAMPION, 2019 AUTUMN OAKS NATIONAL GRNITE CH, 2019 PKC WORLD CH SEMIFINALIST. 2021 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4.
*PKC WORLD CHAMPION PLATNIUM CHAMPION GRNITECH SHACK'S HEATHER ISLAND SOUTHERN STOGIE
2021 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2022 PKC WORLD CHAMPION, 2022 MO PKC STATE LEADER PRO SPORT TRUCK WINNER

RIP
*GRNITECH PKC SCH REDNECK MAFIA PKC HALL OF FAME REPRODUCER INDUCTED 2022
*GRNITECH CH PKC SILVER CH REDNECK SHACK ATTACK aka TAC 2018 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2020 MO PKC STATE LEADER

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2013
Location: Seneca, Mo
Posts: 5823

Rundown of updates throughout the day from committee meeting
https://www.statnews.com/2020/12/10...vid-19-vaccine/
Complete video of meeting today from FDA US Food and Drug Administration channel - not hearsay or cut up in parts by another news agency.
https://youtu.be/owveMJBTc2I
This is where my info from today has came from. I posted in above post. I have not had time to watch its entirety but have several significant parts.
As I stated earlier each person should make an informed decision on what is right for them.
It is concerning that the most vulnerable in our population will soon become Guinea pigs as they have not been included in prior test studies. FDA considers their risk/benefit ratio to be beneficial in getting the vaccine. I hope they are correct.

__________________
Cheyenne & Jennifer Cummings
Seneca , MO
(417)317-4815
"TEAM MAFIA"
*NATIONAL GRNITECH GRCH GRNITECH(5) HALL OF FAME PKC PLATIUM CH REDNECK BACKWOODS SHACK
2014 OK STATE CH, 2015 MO PKC LEADER, 2016 PKC NATIONALS SEMIFINALIST, 2016 UKC TOP 20, 2O17 UKC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 3RD PLACE, 2018 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4, 2018 MO PKC STATE CHAMPION, 2019 AUTUMN OAKS NATIONAL GRNITE CH, 2019 PKC WORLD CH SEMIFINALIST. 2021 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4.
*PKC WORLD CHAMPION PLATNIUM CHAMPION GRNITECH SHACK'S HEATHER ISLAND SOUTHERN STOGIE
2021 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2022 PKC WORLD CHAMPION, 2022 MO PKC STATE LEADER PRO SPORT TRUCK WINNER

RIP
*GRNITECH PKC SCH REDNECK MAFIA PKC HALL OF FAME REPRODUCER INDUCTED 2022
*GRNITECH CH PKC SILVER CH REDNECK SHACK ATTACK aka TAC 2018 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2020 MO PKC STATE LEADER

Last edited by Redneck Mafia on 12-11-2020 at 02:27 AM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Eastern IA
Posts: 239

Everyone should be informed before taking the vaccine.when me and my wife were discussing it I kept bringing up thalidomide and all that went wrong with that because of poor trials.In her case she’s betting on the vaccine.

__________________
Jason Brown

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
Posts: 22462

quote:

---

Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
..... I hope they are correct.

---

They sure are a lot smarter than we are when it comes to vaccines and they have a lot more experience. So, instead of just hoping, I am going to believe them when they say that it is safe.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Morrison TN
Posts: 4927

It is like anything else. It is risk vs reward.

I hope my parents take the vaccine. Their risk from the disease is much higher than their risk from the vaccine.

On the other hand, my children will not be getting the vaccine as the risk of the disease is much less than the risk of the vaccine.

I would personally take it if I hadn't already had the disease.

Medicine is not cookie cutter, which is the whole point I have been making in this thread. It is dangerous when media members start screaming one thing over and over when the risk should be stratified by each individual.

It is no different for this vaccine. You need to discuss your risk of covid vs your risk of the vaccine with your DOCTOR. Not the media, not the CDC, not Fauci.

__________________
Let's go huntin

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
Posts: 22462

I am not going to take it for myself. I am not worried about getting covid. I will take it to get our country over this panicdemic nonsense. Everyone taking the vaccine is the only way to take control back from the government and get our lives back to "normal". The dumrats have used the panicdemic as an excuse to take control of us. They even used it to rig the election and get Biden elected President.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2014
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 3369

quote:

---

Originally posted by Richard Lambert
I am not going to take it for myself. I am not worried about getting covid. I will take it to get our country over this panicdemic nonsense. Everyone taking the vaccine is the only way to take control back from the government and get our lives back to "normal". The dumrats have used the panicdemic as an excuse to take control of us. They even used it to rig the election and get Biden elected President.

---

__________________
Donald Bergeron

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
Posts: 22462

It will get rid of the excuse that they have been using since Feb. It is just my way of fighting back. Of course I also voted for Trump but we see how that worked out.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2015
Location: church hill tn
Posts: 5632

quote:

---

Originally posted by Richard Lambert
I am not going to take it for myself. I am not worried about getting covid. I will take it to get our country over this panicdemic nonsense. Everyone taking the vaccine is the only way to take control back from the government and get our lives back to "normal". The dumrats have used the panicdemic as an excuse to take control of us. They even used it to rig the election and get Biden elected President.

---

__________________
Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2014
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 3369

If I get the shot it will be in my house or in the woods. That's the only places I've been in six months.

__________________
Donald Bergeron

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2015
Location: church hill tn
Posts: 5632

quote:

---

Originally posted by shadinc
If I get the shot it will be in my house or in the woods. That's the only places I've been in six months.

---

__________________
Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2015
Location: London, Ky
Posts: 180

I have my own opinions on Covid, based on being on the front lines, unprotected by PPE, since the beginning. BUT they are just my opinions so I will keep them to my self.

What I find shocking about this thread are the number of posts supporting the dems and bashing the republicans! I find it hard to believe that anyone who cherishes the 2nd Amendment, loves hunting, and loves the way of life that I would think most coon hunters, or hunters in general, enjoy, would even consider voting for a democrat for POTUS, or the Senate or the House. This particular statement may go against the rules and get me in trouble but so be it, I don't see how anyone that is a Christian and a believer in the word of Jesus Christ could vote for a party that supports anything and everything that is un-Godly! If you think they support your rights, you're delusional! If Biden is actually sworn in on Jan 20th, and he probably will be, and God forbid the Dems win the Senate runoff in Georgia in January, GOD HELP US ALL!! They will pack the SCOTUS with liberal justices to regain a liberal majority on the court and the COTUS will be nothing more than an old piece of paper. You can disagree with me all you want and that's fine, that's your right, BUT mark my word, IT WILL HAPPEN!

And I will say this: I firmly believe that if this had not been a Presidential election year, we would have heard very little about Covid 19. Not that it wouldn't have been covered, I'm sure it would have, but not to the extent it has been. There is no doubt in my mind that the Dems used Covid to influence the election!

Last edited by LSO1103 on 12-14-2020 at 06:03 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
Posts: 22462

I called my local hospital that I used to work at to see if I could sneak in line and get a Covid shot. My buddies that still work there said that they would be checking employee name badges closely. So it looks like I will have to wait until next month to get a shot. Apparently they are only shipping 57,000 doses of the vaccine to all of Tennessee in this first batch so only current health care employees will get a shot. All of the ones that I have talked to can't wait to get theirs.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Nov 2011
Location: Freeport,TX
Posts: 1907

quote:

---

Originally posted by LSO1103
I have my own opinions on Covid, based on being on the front lines, unprotected by PPE, since the beginning. BUT they are just my opinions so I will keep them to my self.

What I find shocking about this thread are the number of posts supporting the dems and bashing the republicans! I find it hard to believe that anyone who cherishes the 2nd Amendment, loves hunting, and loves the way of life that I would think most coon hunters, or hunters in general, enjoy, would even consider voting for a democrat for POTUS, or the Senate or the House. This particular statement may go against the rules and get me in trouble but so be it, I don't see how anyone that is a Christian and a believer in the word of Jesus Christ could vote for a party that supports anything and everything that is un-Godly! If you think they support your rights, you're delusional! If Biden is actually sworn in on Jan 20th, and he probably will be, and God forbid the Dems win the Senate runoff in Georgia in January, GOD HELP US ALL!! They will pack the SCOTUS with liberal justices to regain a liberal majority on the court and the COTUS will be nothing more than an old piece of paper. You can disagree with me all you want and that's fine, that's your right, BUT mark my word, IT WILL HAPPEN!

And I will say this: I firmly believe that if this had not been a Presidential election year, we would have heard very little about Covid 19. Not that it wouldn't have been covered, I'm sure it would have, but not to the extent it has been. There is no doubt in my mind that the Dems used Covid to influence the election!

---

__________________
Training dogs is not so much about quantity, it's more about timing, and the right situations...After that it's up to the dog....A hunting dog is born...

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged