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traz 8oz is a cup I feed the same amount you do I feed 4 cups of feed per dog. You are actually feeding half cup more than I am how come you can't afford that lol. just wondering. don't worry I am on the same boat with the whole corn thing my pup can digest corn so i went natural.

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I use to feed Blackgold(high performance 24%pro 20% fat)
cost was about $27.00 for 50lbs.It is a 1star dog feed.I have 3 hounds.Iwent through 1 bag about every13 days.That ='s $730.00 per year.Using the guidelines on the back of the bag(feed to weight ratio)1 dog gets 6 cups a day the other 2 get 5 cups a day.thats 16 cups a day,4 cups = a lb. of feed

Diamond EA on the other hand is a 40lb. bag.cost me around $34.00.It is a 4 star feed.I feed 3 hounds 8 cups a day all together.1 bag last me approx. 20 days.(10 lbs less feed for $7.00 more, last 7 days longer).Not wanting to drag this out,I will roughly save $120.00 a year to feed my hounds much better feed. AND IT SHOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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8oz is a cup

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YOU are the one refusing to take the advise and personal testimonies of people who have fed the other feeds, then fed the Diamond EA and fed less and SAVED MONEY ion the long run. I have been doing it for over a year now and the proof is in my wallet and the difference in the health and performance of my dogs.

Weight of a cup of fed has NOTHING to do with the amount, etc.

The feeding ration to size of dog is on the bag.

How much more simple can it be made.

And FYI..I believe Purina to be Junk as well.

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Summertime?? When corn is sweet and high in sugars?? I guess you didnt think of that.

Let's come back in the winter time and see if they do the same thing to a dried corn on the cob,

The corn in dog feed is DRIED, No sugars are any longer present, ALL STARCH, and the protein content in it is 1/4 of what it was when it was still green.

Nice try though.

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Traxx , I enjoy reading the deeper stuff from someone that has a passion for it .... I learned along time ago that quality pays for itself ..


It's a sad fact that so many folks look at their dog food expense based on how much they pay pay for the bag in hand instead of actually feeding a certain brand for a month and really seeing how much their true dog food bill is ... hillbilly math at it's absolute worst.


We all have a budget , no shame in that .... but a responsible dogman cuts back on how many dogs they got tied to trees instead of the quality of life they give the dogs to do have ....


I have never seen anyone gripe about dog food prices or justify buying cheap feed unless they have more dogs than their budget truly allows them to keep ....

.. this is really not a dog food issue because only a fool would argue with an entire industry that has millions of dollars and millions of hours of research invested into finding out the truth ... it's a money/pride issue ... two things that are more poisonous to those who have it in them than the corn byproducts in that cheap feed.


Traxx , the only thing I have seen that I will say for corn ... is that the better brands of feed with corn gluten in it are some high powered diets .... ProPlan is rocket fuel , in my experience it has more kick when hunting a dog hard than EA ... and the bird dog guys also favor feed with it ....

.. I know it's not a staple or all that nutritous and might be hard on a dog .... but , it's benefit from time to time when hunting hard might outweigh the bad if mixed in with a good food when the extra energy is needed ...

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hootchandjaws a liquid measuring cup is 8 oz but a standard measuring cup for this is the same as what you measure for baking and its not 8 oz. Just for kicks and giggles yesterday I took it out and compared it to the scoop I use and they are dead on as far as accuracy and when brought inside to acually weigh it is closer to 4 oz instead of 8 meaning you are not using but about 16oz for 4 cups a day. Now with that all being said I did break down and bite the bullet yesterday and buy a bag of EA and will give it an honest try. I will finish off what sportmix I have left which isnt much but the 2 thats hunted the most made the official switch yesterday. I plan on giving it at least 3 months since it may take a month or more to actually see any results and that I feel can go with any chow. Weight wise they weigh out almost identical per cup but after doing some simple algebra which is a little more complex than 3rd grade and hillbilly math it would seem that at the very least it will be a wash and come out even and at the best would save about $8 every 2 weeks and if they look do well on it then I will have no problem admitting to Mr Traxx it is in fact a better feed for the money but I can also do this with a simple recommendation of what works for my kennel without belittling those that choose something different. I cant speak for anyone but myself but as far as all these feed post go its not the facts that I think tick folks off but the manner in which they are presented. At the end of the day no one likes to be belittled no matter whats right or wrong.

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hootchandjaws a liquid measuring cup is 8 oz but a standard measuring cup for this is the same as what you measure for baking and its not 8 oz. Just for kicks and giggles yesterday I took it out and compared it to the scoop I use and they are dead on as far as accuracy and when brought inside to acually weigh it is closer to 4 oz instead of 8 meaning you are not using but about 16oz for 4 cups a day. Now with that all being said I did break down and bite the bullet yesterday and buy a bag of EA and will give it an honest try. I will finish off what sportmix I have left which isnt much but the 2 thats hunted the most made the official switch yesterday. I plan on giving it at least 3 months since it may take a month or more to actually see any results and that I feel can go with any chow. Weight wise they weigh out almost identical per cup but after doing some simple algebra which is a little more complex than 3rd grade and hillbilly math it would seem that at the very least it will be a wash and come out even and at the best would save about $8 every 2 weeks and if they look do well on it then I will have no problem admitting to Mr Traxx it is in fact a better feed for the money but I can also do this with a simple recommendation of what works for my kennel without belittling those that choose something different. I cant speak for anyone but myself but as far as all these feed post go its not the facts that I think tick folks off but the manner in which they are presented. At the end of the day no one likes to be belittled no matter whats right or wrong.

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I see all this talk about Diamond EA. I see Diamond Naturals Lamb and rice and Chicken and rice have no corn or soy either looks much like EA but with a little less protein and fat content. Pretty much the same maybe a couple of dollars less. Looks just as good to me, but does anybody feed this? I feed my dogs mostly meat during winter but do feed (mostly) dog food summer. Any opinions on difference between EA and naturals? If you think one is superior then the other why?

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The EA makes smaller , dark and firm stools for my dogs ... the other NAturals still give them lighter and looser stool ... so there is something different enough for me to stick with the EA .

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I feed the EA to the young dogs i hunt alot and feed the regular Naturals chicken for my older less hunted dogs,and the Naturals lamb formula for the pups,all have good results so far,it's good feed for the price.

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Thanks for the replys.

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Diamond IS NO BETTER THEN OL ROY. ITS WENT WAY DOWN HILL OVER THE YEARS!

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Diamond EA is a 4 star dog old roy is one star how is that even close its a 32/25

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Diamond IS NO BETTER THEN OL ROY. ITS WENT WAY DOWN HILL OVER THE YEARS!

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You are even more ignorant than I first thought!

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manic what would do you like to feed your hounds just curious. and what would the price per bag be. If there something better for the price i would like to know.

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After reading all the posts on this thread how many people agree that we should feed our dogs? Maybe have a poll 1. FEED 2. NOT FEED.
By the way for you that aren't sure, THIS IS A JOKE!

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After reading all the posts on this thread how many people agree that we should feed our dogs? Maybe have a poll 1. FEED 2. NOT FEED.
By the way for you that aren't sure, THIS IS A JOKE!

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I had one almost trained not to eat.............then he died.

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you people that think because diamond had a recall its bad feed i bet if u look hard at wat ur feeding it has been recaled at least once in the last ten years

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For all you non-belivers out there. Go buy you a bag of Diamond EA. Feed it to one dog. Especially if it is a hard keeper. Follow the feeding requirements on the bag for your dog. And see what happens for your self.

I had a female here that was hard to get weight on. I tried several different dog foods. She didn't have any worms and she isn't a hyper female. So I gave Diamond EA a try. She starting gaining weight. Here stools were solid and less. I hate to see a cow like patty in my pen.

I tried it on her to see if it will work. And it did. So now I will be switching all my dogs to it.

Do your self a favor and look at the ingredients on Diamond EA and compare it to Black Gold 31/21, 24/20, Pro Plan 30/20, Ultra, High Standard, Sportmix, and all these other feeds.

Diamond EA doesn't have any Corn, Wheat, or Soy. And it is cheaper than Pro Plan with more pounds.

And if some of you are scared to try it on your dog. Go to the pound find a dog there and try it on him.

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Lovis....

I am a Purina person, but just because this thread has gone on for this long, I'm gonna buy a couple bags....The Extreme feed, not the Naturals....I bought a pallet of the Natural (Chicken) and my entire kennel had the squirts for a month....I fed it to the coons last year.....

I will then make my own judgment call on how it turns out. I want the best for my dogs and like to save money as well....I have also learned tho that "I get what I pay for" as well. If it doesn't do well, I will have some coon feed for this fall, huh?

I will keep you posted.

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Found the EA for $28 a bag. I am paying $20 for the CMF I am feeding now so am going to give it a try. I would appreciate some comments to the question an earlier poster asked to compare the EA and the other Naturals from diamond. I know they have less protien and fat but all seem to be corn and wheat free. Could they be better for an older dog or a dog thats not being hunted hard?

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