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RedScorpion
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We always had luck with Bluetick and Foxhound crosses, back in the day.

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jdgher
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New Breed

The Cross bred hounds I've been around had great confirmation. If color is not a factor or determined, the cross bred dogs may have an unfair advantage over the pure breds in the bench show, I would think.

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Chuck Allen
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How about Extra Trashy depression era sportsman hounds. thats what my x-breeds are. crossbreeds out of crossbreeds.

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Originally posted by Todd K / UKC
ThomasG I could pose the same question to you. Since PR designates three generation of registered ancestors in one breed, your wish for the cross to be PR would only make sense if Walker and English were the same breed. By being separate breeds you don't have 3 generations of any one breed and therefore cannot be PR.

The better question would be, if I continue to breed my XBred as XBred for three generations would I have PR XBred? THAT is a good question! lol

And yes, XBred is eligible to run the Purina Series.

they can have the most purina points in the nation but cant win a dime in the finals because they are not a breed ,as a matter of fact they are not invited ,

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quote:
Originally posted by Todd K / UKC
ThomasG I could pose the same question to you. Since PR designates three generation of registered ancestors in one breed, your wish for the cross to be PR would only make sense if Walker and English were the same breed. By being separate breeds you don't have 3 generations of any one breed and therefore cannot be PR.

The better question would be, if I continue to breed my XBred as XBred for three generations would I have PR XBred? THAT is a good question! lol

And yes, XBred is eligible to run the Purina Series.

they can have the most purina points in the nation but cant win a dime in the finals because they are not a breed ,as a matter of fact they are not invited ,

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Todd K / UKC
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Sorry...I should have explained that better....you are correct.

I wonder if Sawblade ever had any luck with his breeding program for a pretty high tan American Coonhound?

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We discussed all that back before we announced XBred. I'm personally in favor of the way it is set up now. But who knows, if we ever start seeing real numbers of these crosses showing up there would probably be some interest in discussing what you have proposed above.

Your proposal does not make any distinction between 1) dogs being intentionally crossbred 2) accidental cross breedings 3) dogs of unknown ancestry and 4) purebreds with dq faults. XBred seems a better fit to be all-inclusive. Your proposal seems like a fit for category 1 above. To me anyway? Thoughts?

The X-Bred change worked for me. My Blueticks were Full blood but not UKC registered, as soon as the program was started(2014) I began breeding UKC Sires to my female Blues, after reaching 87.5 co-efficiency I just mailed my Litter Application and Bred Transfer to Bluetick Coonhound. Thanks Todd and UKC(Russell).

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The X-Bred change worked for me. My Blueticks were Full blood but not UKC registered, as soon as the program was started(2014) I began breeding UKC Sires to my female Blues, after reaching 87.5 co-efficiency I just mailed my Litter Application and Bred Transfer to Bluetick Coonhound. Thanks Todd and UKC(Russell).


That is great! That is the kind of success story I like hear. Congrats.

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JOE H BROOKS
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X Breed

I've got two females that are 4 months old, one is redbone colored, one is black&tan both are super loud. Their mother is a ukc registered, redbone out of the Grnnitech Walnut Boone, their sire's littermate brother placed 1st and 2nd at this years walker days, the walker brothers are out of Mo-jo Mason, both parents are hard tree dogs, some in the litter, are already treeing squirrels. There are in the process of being litter registered ukc x-bred, i'd say that most of the litter, should make real coon treeers. This was an accidentle breeding.

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JOE H BROOKS
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X=BRED

I 've also got a ukc registered x-bred, she's a high tan, real pretty dog, has a low mouth around the house, low mouth on track, explodes, on the tree, with a real loud chop. Her sire was Grnnitechj Honey Creek Spider, a walker, her mother was Nitech Knovack's Flo IV, a black&tan she has litter mates, that are real nice coon dogs.

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I am curious to know, what is your definition of a "high tan" ?

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JOE H BROOKS
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High Tan

Jovember, has tan above her eyes, tan on her front legs, tan on her hind legs, she has a black saddle, that's my definition, of a high tan. When she was 7 months old, she found a possum, Goldie was an older, bigger female, she tried to take, Jovember's possum. Jovember said, no that's my possum, and you ain't takeing it. Now she likes to tree coons, with a big loud chop mouth, her track mouth is real quiet, low volume, which i thought was strange, most X-bred hounds, have real pretty mouths, real pleasant to listen too.

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