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The stephens Mt Cur breeders association event starts today in Tell City Indiana with all Stephens events. Tomorrow we have licensed cur events as well as Friday
Come and enjoy

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Stephens dogs are not Mt. CUR dogs, they are a separate breed. I am not trying to belittle anyone, just pointing out the distinction of the two breeds, Stephens Stock and the original mountain cur dogs. Mr. Stephens and Mr. McConnell definitely did not refer to the Stephens Stock dogs as Mountain Curs. Dave

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Stephens stock mt cur. Look it up.

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Stephens Mt Curs we’re originally part of the Mt. Cur club of America. Hugh Stephens was the first president. They were right there with A.D Ledbetter Mr Green and Mr Mconnell.

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Here’s what they were advertised as for years.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=s...tock+cur&fr

If this link doesn’t work Google search Stephens Stock Cur and see what you get.

Maybe the name was changed but for years this is the way they were advertised in Full Cry magazine going back to the 1970’s.

Dave’s right.

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Yes, different breed of mt cur, but still is a mt cur, didn't say they was original mt cur, Kemmer mt cur, or etc. We only raised them for 20+ yrs so I have no clue about them.

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I knew Mr. McConnell very well and got Stephens Curs from him. I enjoyed the breed. NEVER heard anyone refer to them as Mt, Curs, always called them Stephens Stock Curs. Anyway the semantics are not important as the fact they were/are a nice little breed of hunting dogs. Dave

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I knew Mr. McConnell very well and got Stephens Curs from him. I enjoyed the breed. NEVER heard anyone refer to them as Mt, Curs, always called them Stephens Stock Curs. Anyway the semantics are not important as the fact they were/are a nice little breed of hunting dogs. Dave

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I’m thinking there was another black strain of Mt. Cur besides the Stephens Mt cur…seems like they had a lot of white trim to them…does anyone know what the name was or is? Thanks

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I’m thinking there was another black strain of Mt. Cur besides the Stephens Mt cur…seems like they had a lot of white trim to them…does anyone know what the name was or is? Thanks

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38 years ago when I was 12 the first competition hunt I ever hunted in was at the Stephens Stock Breeders Roundup is what I believe it was called. I bought a pup I called Blue Diamond and I am positive the papers said Stephens Stock Curs said nothing about Mt Cur. I bought the pup off of Mr. Bob Beck of Paris Illinois who would write articles in Full Cry for Stephens Stock Breeders articles. Mr Beck was starting to lose his eye sight when I met him. Hugh Johnson of Coatesville Indiana is the man who got me into the Stephens Stock breed. I never heard them referred to as a mountain cur. Interesting post.

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Some omcba dogs are black and white, so there's one example. Just because someone had never heard of something, doesn't mean others are wrong. And that's all I've got to say on it.

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Even UKC don’t identify them as Mountain Cur!

https://www.ukcdogs.com/stephens-cur

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Doesn't matter what ukc identifies them as now. Was not a ukc event!! Look up what the breed started from. A strain of mt cur is what they are from, read down thru the link you provided, or look up elsewhere..

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https://www.ukcdogs.com/enlgish-coonhound

The Walker and Bluetick comes from the strain of English Foxhounds.

We don’t call them a English Foxhound Walker lol.

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Quote from Stephens Breeders Association yearbook
“In 1957 at the forming of the Mountain Cur club of America, there could be found five family stocks or strains of Mountain Cur Tree dogs. They were Ledbetter, Arline, York, McConnell and Stephens “

They are Mt curs folks

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Thanks for that! I never have seen one of the Stephen’s Stock dogs and have never had the opportunity to hunt with a Mountain Cur. There was a couple of brothers that were well known bear hunters in VT that use to have some Mountain Curs in their bear pack. There were some guys in my area who had purchased pups they raised from these dogs they had. I was told the Mt. Curs these fellas had were gritty and would put the bite on a bear.

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I concede the Stephens Stock dogs were curs and if someone wants to call them Mountain Curs that's okay by me. The major breeders I knew liked to distinguish the Stephens Stock as a separate breed from what was known as the Mountain cur. They were proud and should have been of the Stephens Stock curs. No need to argue over a definition and definitely no need to try and group all of the cur breeds into a general classification as Mountain curs. Hound breeds are described as separate breeds to promote certain bloodlines and the Cur breeds are no different. Mr Stephens and Mr McConnell were very proud of the Stephens Stock Curs and would definitely not call them Mountain Curs. Once again, I am not playing on semantics, so call them anything you want, they are good little dogs and deserve the distinction of being called Stephens Curs. Dave

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I second that Dave. I am glad this subject was brought to attention to the Stephens Stock Cur dogs. I found them to be excellent spring summer Coon dogs but doesn’t compare to the trailing of a hound dog on a cold winter night.

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Thanks for that! I never have seen one of the Stephen’s Stock dogs and have never had the opportunity to hunt with a Mountain Cur. There was a couple of brothers that were well known bear hunters in VT that use to have some Mountain Curs in their bear pack. There were some guys in my area who had purchased pups they raised from these dogs they had. I was told the Mt. Curs these fellas had were gritty and would put the bite on a bear.

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I ran across an old article in Full Cry. It was February 2004 by Jim Stephens. It starts with “Greetings from the Blue Grass State and the home of the Stephens Stock Mountain Curs.” If you get an opportunity take a look. It has a little history in it.

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Thanks for that! I never have seen one of the Stephen’s Stock dogs and have never had the opportunity to hunt with a Mountain Cur. There was a couple of brothers that were well known bear hunters in VT that use to have some Mountain Curs in their bear pack. There were some guys in my area who had purchased pups they raised from these dogs they had. I was told the Mt. Curs these fellas had were gritty and would put the bite on a bear.

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For you guys that have hunted these Stephens dogs. How do they hunt compared to a good hound? Nose, range, good track dogs? I know they’re all different just like all hounds aren’t the same but generally how would you rate them? Thanks

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For you guys that have hunted these Stephens dogs. How do they hunt compared to a good hound? Nose, range, good track dogs? I know they’re all different just like all hounds aren’t the same but generally how would you rate them? Thanks

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The Stephens dogs seem to have a better nose than most curs they are open on track Coon hunting them. Usually they don’t hunt as deep as a hound. I really like their brains they will mind you like a child. I usually tell people they are a Coon dog that will tree squirrels but I have owned some that made really good squirrel dogs

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