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What makes a man think he's got a 5 or 6 thousand dollar dog just becouse it can tree a coon? I've been coon hunting 20 years and haven't hunted with a dog of that caliber yet. I mean for that kind of money you can take your pick!

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In my opinion the difference between a $2,000.00 dog and a $6,000.00 dog is simply the person who is wanting to buy it.

The only exception to this is a dog that has won several major events and/or the world hunt. Those dogs carry with themselves a certain marketability that the remaining good coon hounds simple do not have. Thus making them more marketable in the open market, plus you have a greater opportunity for a return on your investment.

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The difference Dave, is the 6000 dollar dog is a walker. The 2000 dollar dog is an off colored one. lol. I have had dogs that I could not get 1500 for, had a walker dog that could not go past a tree without treeing on it, and sold it for 2000 just because it had a big mouth. Guy seen it go, treed 5 times within 200 yards and never had a coon. My old redtick brokeout and treed one time that night and had a coon. Guy could not get his wallet out fast enough.

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Depends who is sellin and whos buyin.... Years ago I had a nice young dog for sale asking 1000 had 3 people try him all wanted him but wanted to trade junk at new price... Week or so later hunted with a guy that bought and sold dogs all over sold dog for 850 a week later one of the idiots that tried the dog when I had him bought him for 2500 half up front half on the payment plan....dog must of really improved!!!

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The differance Dave is when the off colored has competed and beat some of those 6 or7,000 Walker dogs!!! When your dog can do better than your buddys 6,000 dog he must be worth it?

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The difference Dave, is the 6000 dollar dog is a walker. The 2000 dollar dog is an off colored one.

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Depends on whose buying and whose selling. How bad you want it or how bad you need the money. Some 2,000 dollar hounds are twice as good as some 6,000 dollar ones. I wouldn't sell my favorite one right now for 10,000 CASH. Is he worth it? Heck no, but I would sell my light and gun before I sell my hound.

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There is only one thing that decides the worth of anything, and that is simply what someone is willing to pay for it.

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How come when I go to try all these $2500 dogs I almost always see a man thats got a gr.nite that thinks that hound is as good as they come, but can't even begin to compete in the high dollar entry fee hunts. You want young prohunt style hound good luck finding one that can consistanly compete for $2500 thats under 6 or 7 years old.
Biggest difference is the recast. If that hound will not recast off a tree and not go back dogs split or trailing around them you will have a hard time competing. Hounds that will consistanly get you to the pay window will cost you. Don't take much this day and time to make a gr.nite and most of you are to hung up on that. I have culled a bunch in the last 5 years. I have bought alot of hounds for $2500 -$4000 that were coontreerers but had a pile of nit picky holes that made them different form hounds that consistanly get to the pay window. Now how many hounds are truly worth say $7500-$15000 in the country well maybe 15-20 at most. And alot of that depends on breed to. A prohunt style off colored hound usually cannot be purchaced not even for $10000. For those of you that do not understand my take of a prohunt style hound I can descirbe one to you if you would like me to because would love to find another english just like my dot female. You may stay on a leash for over a hour in a 2 hour cast when you draw her.

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Nick,you hit it.

Biggest problem is recast.

Most can tree one coon. That recast culls them fast.

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Id give $500 for a goodun today!! Come show it to me. We will hunt all night.

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I think the price of dogs are realy crazy,I understand that some are better than others and that they can win big money.my personal opinion is that I wouldn't pay $5000 or more for a dog.first I don't have it to spend on a hobby,and I love my dogs but to me that's crazy.im sorry if I make anybody mad but that's my opinion.with all that big time money I think we lose sight of why we hunt these hounds,to me it's cause I love hounds and coo hunting.

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What makes a man think he's got a 5 or 6 thousand dollar dog just becouse it can tree a coon? I've been coon hunting 20 years and haven't hunted with a dog of that caliber yet. I mean for that kind of money you can take your pick!

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And I'm not writting all of this to sound like I am a big shot or something. I understand everyone does not take coonhunting that serious. There are people out there that like to go to the big hunts all the time and it cost $$$$$ just to go. Just out there pleasure hunting there are alot of hounds that will tree as many coons as the big time winners just dropping alone. It all has to do on what they do in circumstances when rules and scorecards are put on them. If your just out to tree coons or hit the local hunt everynow and then its crazy to spend big $$$$$ on a hound if you don't really have it. Most do not care if a hound covers a dog after there recasted off a tree. But if your going to try and win $4000 at the prohunt that comes to town, if you want a chance to win, you better. Most don't pay attention when there dogs back on a slick. People that want to win world hunts know there hound needs to not be on that slick if they want a chance to win it. To many people make excusses for there hounds and its no different than people with there kids ; they just think they can do no wrong. Go to 5 or 6 prohunts and you will see there all just dogs but dogs like full throttle jigs, wipeout jesse jane, hardrock, wipeout moose, and so on would grow fleas, mate with ther mother or dad, smelled really bad when they were wet, did not understand mathmatics, but there was something that seperated them from dogs for sale on the internet.

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You your in the final cast of a hunt and a $27000 truck is on the line, $4000 at a prohunt, a $40,000 world hunt in other words alot is on the line. You have just pulled your hound off a tree with 20 minitues left in the cast. There is a coon on the ground 3/4 of a mile away but a hound is split 100 yards from ya, another is split behind you at 600 yards another hound is trailing 400 yards in another direction. You have got to tree a coon for a chance to win and you will be put in this circumstance often when your drawing the best in the country. There are hounds out there that can give you a chance to win but there worth more than $800-$2500. This is not a $25 dollar entry fee hunt this is a hunt it takes a hound of a high caliber to put you in this circumstance in the first place. This seperates the Gr.nites for sale on the internet from the big time winners. Thats the difference you can make fun of me if you want.

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You your in the final cast of a hunt and a $27000 truck is on the line, $4000 at a prohunt, a $40,000 world hunt in other words alot is on the line. You have just pulled your hound off a tree with 20 minitues left in the cast. There is a coon on the ground 3/4 of a mile away but a hound is split 100 yards from ya, another is split behind you at 600 yards another hound is trailing 400 yards in another direction. You have got to tree a coon for a chance to win and you will be put in this circumstance often when your drawing the best in the country. There are hounds out there that can give you a chance to win but there worth more than $800-$2500. This is not a $25 dollar entry fee hunt this is a hunt it takes a hound of a high caliber to put you in this circumstance in the first place. This seperates the Gr.nites for sale on the internet from the big time winners. Thats the difference you can make fun of me if you want.

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And I'm not writting all of this to sound like I am a big shot or something. I understand everyone does not take coonhunting that serious. There are people out there that like to go to the big hunts all the time and it cost $$$$$ just to go. Just out there pleasure hunting there are alot of hounds that will tree as many coons as the big time winners just dropping alone. It all has to do on what they do in circumstances when rules and scorecards are put on them. If your just out to tree coons or hit the local hunt everynow and then its crazy to spend big $$$$$ on a hound if you don't really have it. Most do not care if a hound covers a dog after there recasted off a tree. But if your going to try and win $4000 at the prohunt that comes to town, if you want a chance to win, you better. Most don't pay attention when there dogs back on a slick. People that want to win world hunts know there hound needs to not be on that slick if they want a chance to win it. To many people make excusses for there hounds and its no different than people with there kids ; they just think they can do no wrong. Go to 5 or 6 prohunts and you will see there all just dogs but dogs like full throttle jigs, wipeout jesse jane, hardrock, wipeout moose, and so on would grow fleas, mate with ther mother or dad, smelled really bad when they were wet, did not understand mathmatics, but there was something that seperated them from dogs for sale on the internet.

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Why are all of these dogs split treed like this? What happened to the hounds that struck and treed together thus showing you who had the best dog? People blow these get by themselves dogs out of proportion and they don't impress me one bit. They are other things used to measure a coon dog and it sure ain't a Pro hunt.

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Why are all of these dogs split treed like this? What happened to the hounds that struck and treed together thus showing you who had the best dog? People blow these get by themselves dogs out of proportion and they don't impress me one bit. They are other things used to measure a coon dog and it sure ain't a Pro hunt.

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The original topic of the post is what makes a big obey dog worth that money ...

Nick, you are spot on and hit the nail on the head.

Carter, no disrespect but your statement was spoken like a true diehard ukc hunter. Most will agree that treeing coons in a pack all night proves nothing more times than not. And the times it would prove something it was prob an independent dog not worrying about the rest of the cast and treeing coon after coon while the rest of the cast me too'd all night.

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The packers have 4:59 to cover for 75 on tree. That is hilarious. Dont hear ukc folk hollering about it though your right. This post should probably be on pro hound. Aint but probably 2 ukc dogs ever brought over $6000. So they really dont know what yall are talking about here

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Why are all of these dogs split treed like this? What happened to the hounds that struck and treed together thus showing you who had the best dog? People blow these get by themselves dogs out of proportion and they don't impress me one bit. They are other things used to measure a coon dog and it sure ain't a Pro hunt.

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And I'm not writting all of this to sound like I am a big shot or something. I understand everyone does not take coonhunting that serious. There are people out there that like to go to the big hunts all the time and it cost $$$$$ just to go. Just out there pleasure hunting there are alot of hounds that will tree as many coons as the big time winners just dropping alone. It all has to do on what they do in circumstances when rules and scorecards are put on them. If your just out to tree coons or hit the local hunt everynow and then its crazy to spend big $$$$$ on a hound if you don't really have it. Most do not care if a hound covers a dog after there recasted off a tree. But if your going to try and win $4000 at the prohunt that comes to town, if you want a chance to win, you better. Most don't pay attention when there dogs back on a slick. People that want to win world hunts know there hound needs to not be on that slick if they want a chance to win it. To many people make excusses for there hounds and its no different than people with there kids ; they just think they can do no wrong. Go to 5 or 6 prohunts and you will see there all just dogs but dogs like full throttle jigs, wipeout jesse jane, hardrock, wipeout moose, and so on would grow fleas, mate with ther mother or dad, smelled really bad when they were wet, did not understand mathmatics, but there was something that seperated them from dogs for sale on the internet.

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