Registered: Oct 2004
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Cast?
Two dog cast. Dogs A and B declared struck. A declared treed B is at tree and treeing but not called treed. 5 expires and cast goes to tree. Handle both dogs and tree is slick. How do you score B? I know the answer, but was surprised at the amount of conversation this scenario generated recently.
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Easy enough. But it's surprising how many folks want to delete B or minus strike only...
Full disclosure, I was honestly thinking that B would be minused strike only unless tree was plussed, until I looked at the card and read 4K. Been doing this alot of years and still trying to get it all right..!
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quote:Originally posted by joey I've never seen a sport were so many of the players do not know the rules.
Go to pkc and look at the latest question there IM amazed by how much someone has won and how little they know , but then again who needs rules if your toting a coon dog!
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Clarksville, AR
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Sounds like a plan! Been setting the world on fire and staying busy at it.
I know the rule, and I know how this particular situation should be scored, but the order in which dogs and handlers arrive at a tree, whether they're declared treed, and how a tree gets scored really get you some convoluted answers...
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quote:Originally posted by Cory Highfill Easy enough. But it's surprising how many folks want to delete B or minus strike only...
Full disclosure, I was honestly thinking that B would be minused strike only unless tree was plussed, until I looked at the card and read 4K. Been doing this alot of years and still trying to get it all right..!
Actually the correct rule is 4J. 4K deals with a dog call treed after 5 min. Under 4J the dog would be minused ( 75 -) under 4K he would be minused 125- As for the strike points, it wasn't stated which dog was struck first
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You're absolutely right. I referenced the rule from memory and was off by a line, but 4J was the one I was thinking of and is the correct one to apply here.
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Your right Cory. Dogs treeing but not declared treed confuses a lot of guys, when it comes to proper scoring. The biggest problem I see is they want to score the dog before they score the tree.
Dogs coming in after the judge arrives is easy; 5(b) always applies. Treeing but not declared treed, when judge arrived, requires scoring the tree first, which determines how to score the dog in question.
Circle tree = Circle strike points.
Coon seen = Minus strike points.
Slick tree = award next available tree points and minus both strike and tree points.
Off game = award next available tree points and minus both strike and tree points for Registered (=Scratched for Nites or Grands).
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