Registered: Jan 2016
Location: sc
Posts: 160

How many of y’all start young dogs with older hounds?

How many start two pups at a time?

I have no set way, but would like to know others preferences and why you choose to do it that way.

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Registered: Jun 2018
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Start 3 or 4 together and keep the leader. I have never seen a follower that wound up suiting me. I have seen several good prospects that was ruined by hunting them with an older dog. In my experience if a pup has to have an older dog to go with it it's not got enough heart.

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Registered: Feb 2012
Location: airville,pa
Posts: 2072

I usually have more than 1 pup going at a time but I don't take both at the same time. I love to hunt a young pup by itself but it had better be able to run and tree a coon or it's just a waste of my time and the pups. Even a pup that can tree it's own coon I find myself wasting way to many nights hunting it alone before it's really ready. But I do have very nice older dogs for pup training if I had an older hound that had any attitude at a tree even the slightest face barking I would have a different view of things.

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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Yadkin County NC
Posts: 1657

Black youve opened a can of worms here. Seems everybody has a different method. I've started a lot of pups and I'll tell you my method, The only way I put two pups together is on a released caged coon. I turn out the coon in an open field with the pups loose and let them harass it to the woods and they see it go up. Then I take them one at a time with a dog they are familiar with, preferably it's dame. If she isn't good enough to hunt your pup with then she wasn't good enough to breed in the first place. After the pup starts running and treeing with the old dog I single it out and start hunting it by itself. If it starts to slack off another night or two with the old dog then single again. It doesn't hurt to have a bucket for the first drop to make it easier then a drop in the wild. I always got more progress that way.

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Registered: Jan 2017
Location: Miami, Ok
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I don't necessarily have what you'd call a good pup trainer. My oldest dog is a 17 month old coon treeing female, loner. So not exactly the best thing to have a pup trying to keep up with. I am fortunate enough to have a place to let my pups run loose from 6-8 months or whatever time I hear them treeing around the house. Then I take one at a time with my female. At this point they should know how to navigate the woods, looking to get treed or find something to run. If they keep up with her that's awesome, if they don't well they should be finding something to do! Many I feel like can tree coons their first night if they knew that's what they were looking for. But most do tree one by the time I've hunted them a week. To answer your question I only hunt one at a time.

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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
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I hate to say it but I have to agree with Mr River's method. That is what I did back when I used to start pups.

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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Yadkin County NC
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Mr. Lambert that wasn't so hard, now was it? Heck I take that as a compliment. Bet you hate that too. lol

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Registered: Jan 2007
Location: monroeville OH
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some of you old bafoons training BS holds about as much water as some of the young folks.

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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
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Yeah, us old bafoons have never started or trained a pup.

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Registered: May 2015
Location: IN
Posts: 2760

Hav'nt used a pup trainer or cage coon 20 yrs, but they see a lot of day time woods before I take them at night. A couple have treed day time coons all have treed something before night hunting. I start by taking them only on good nights. These dogs start easy anymore. If I wasn't in a coon Zoo I'd probably turn a couple loose but I wouldn't show the pup the coon.

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Registered: May 2006
Location: Pamplin Va.
Posts: 454

Buy 2 pups out of same litter, let them run loose till they start going off and treeing. Put them up and start hunting them by themselves. Usually the first one that goes hunting and trees a coon stays. This last time both pups i got have turned out really well, both go hunting and tree coons, their are different things about each one i dont like but i have had a tough time deciding which one to keep and which one to sell. The next one i do i am going to do something different, buy one pup, crate train it, and do all the obedience and recall training before taking them to the woods.

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Registered: Jan 2006
Location: WV
Posts: 821

I'm sure everyone has their own method of starting pups and they probably work well. As long as the finished product is what you're looking for, there's probably no wrong way to get there. I used to think I was a pretty good pup trainer because I usually had good luck getting one from point A to point B & C with good results. Something that I was forgetting to figure in was the quality of the pup I was training. The first thing in training any pup is to get a good quality prospect. A good pup with brains that shows natural ability is fairly easy but you can waste a ton of time on one that's not gonna satisfy you. If you know anything about a quality coon dog you should know what kind it takes to get there. If you don't like something about your pup, you probably wont want to give it the attention it needs or deserves so cut it short and get another one. Some folks are harder to please than others and that's fine cause we all don't hunt with the same intensity. Use whatever method that works for you but start with a good product, I promise you'll be happier in the end.

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Registered: Jan 2016
Location: sc
Posts: 160

I’ve done drags, cage coon, feeders. Tried most flavors of the month and haven’t ended up with a sho bough coon dog yet. I’m simply going to take the new pup hunting nothing more nothing less, cut it on a bucket a few times and see what happens.

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