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Should the way we vote on rule proposals be updated
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Yes,create a poll page so all members can vote 21 63.64%
No, it's okay the way it is 12 36.36%
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Pat Bizich
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Poll: Rule Proposals Voting

I been doing a lot of complaining about the way these rule proposals are submitted and voted on by respective breed reps.
I contend with todays social media access by a majority of breed association members that the way votes are submitted and counted needs modified so "ALL MEMBERS" have a say, vote, voice, and are heard.
If an association has say 900 members and only 50-75 attend their national breed . They are in reality the only voices being heard on rule proposal changes.
My understanding was that these breed associations are to get paid members input. So why are just a few having all the say???
I have been doing a slow burn since March that has turned into a blazing fire.
I belong to two separate breed associations which will effectively be the last year for both because of not being fairly represented. What sense is it if my membership gives me no say ????
Starting in March . I had to get Alan involved because one Rep refused my proposal . This was not the first time. BECAUSE I WAS TOLD I HAD TO DO IT AT THE NATIONAL MEETING.
Secondly when I was able to finally get it accepted I feel it was purposely rewritten and without the reason attached.

So unless you are willing to travel 100's of miles to attend a breed days meeting you have no say???
This is dead wrong.
Every paid member should have an opportunity to vote and be heard.
Each association whether on their home page or right here on this forum Breed page can create a poll of all submitted proposals. It will be right there in the public eye for all to see. NO MORE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS OR REPS VOTING THEIR WAY INSTEAD OF THE MAJORITIES WAY.

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Josh Michaelis
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If that had been the case these changes would have been made years ago

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Lance Laymon
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I vote to stop changing the rules. It takes a long time to make a dog fit the rules we have, and then we change them

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Robert Johnson
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x2. Close the changing...throw out the proposals from this year... set a new date for submitting proposals year of our lord 2200 and then maybe we can stop some of this madness. No one that's here now will ever care, and the dogs of that year will be much better off because of it.

Realistically, we only need submit any wanted changes to UKC. Get the breed associations out the picture altogether. Its UKC's nickel, and their business. Any needed changes should be done at the registries discretion and with their stamp of approval. In a nutshell it is their business to run and set policy for. If we don't like it we can go else where, which is what everyone does anyway in a business world. Some of these rules are nothing more than promoting dog abuse. Plain and simple.

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quote:
Originally posted by Robert Johnson
x2. Close the changing...throw out the proposals from this year... set a new date for submitting proposals year of our lord 2200 and then maybe we can stop some of this madness. No one that's here now will ever care, and the dogs of that year will be much better off because of it.

Realistically, we only need submit any wanted changes to UKC. Get the breed associations out the picture altogether. Its UKC's nickel, and their business. Any needed changes should be done at the registries discretion and with their stamp of approval. In a nutshell it is their business to run and set policy for. If we don't like it we can go else where, which is what everyone does anyway in a business world. Some of these rules are nothing more than promoting dog abuse. Plain and simple.




What rule is promoting dog abuse? I'm lost on your thinking and reasoning. And if you think the rules haven't needed a huge reform for 20+ years you're delusional. I agree with taking the breed reps out of the equation all together. Let ukc set the rules. They would be changed a long time ago.

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